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Pemerintah telah menetapkan sejumlah kebijakan guna mengantisipasi terjadinya kepadatan dan kemacetan lalu lintas, selama musim mudik Lebaran tahun 2025. Salah satunya dengan memberlakukan pola bekerja dari mana saja atau Work From Anywhere (WFA) bagi Aparatur Sipil Negara (ASN) mulai tanggal 24 hingga 27 Maret 2025.

Kemudian, Pemerintah juga telah merevisi jadwal libur sekolah dan madrasah selama bulan Ramadhan yang semula dijadwalkan mulai 24 Maret 2025, kini dimajukan menjadi 21 Maret hingga 8 April 2025.

Sementara itu, Kementerian Perhubungan memprediksikan jumlah masyarakat Indonesia yang akan melakukan perjalanan selama momen mudik Lebaran tahun ini, mencapai 146,48 juta orang. Dan dari jumlah ratusan juta jiwa tersebut, Kemenhub juga memprediksikan akan ada 33,71 juta orang atau 23% dari pemudik yang akan menggunakan mobil pribadi.

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00:00Yes, hello viewers, how are you today, straight from the AIDX studio in Jakarta, my name is
00:25Prasetyowi Bowo, back in the market review, a program that removes issues that have become
00:29the driving force of the economy in Indonesia. You can also watch our live stream on aidixchannel.com
00:35and let's just start the complete market review.
00:46The government has decided to implement the work from anywhere policy for the civil
00:52state civil apparatus, the WFA policy to reduce the risk of congestion on the highway during the
00:58Eid al-Fitr period, 1446 Hijriah.
01:04The government has established a number of policies to prevent congestion and traffic jams
01:10during the holiday season in 2025. One of them is by implementing the work from anywhere policy.
01:20For civil state civil apparatus or WFA from March 24 to 27, 2025.
01:27Then the government has revised the school holiday schedule and mandalas for the month of Ramadan,
01:31which was originally scheduled from March 24, 2025, is now advanced to March 21 to April 8, 2025.
01:41Meanwhile, the Ministry of Transportation predicts the number of Indonesian people who will
01:46travel during this year's Eid al-Fitr period will reach 146.48 million people.
01:52And of the hundreds of millions of souls, the Ministry of Transportation also predicts that there will be
01:5633.71 million people or 23% of the people who will use private cars.
02:03From Jakarta, IDX News coverage team.
02:08Yes, meanwhile, as many as 146 million, 48 thousand people are predicted to
02:13travel during the Eid al-Fitr period this year.
02:16The peak of the Eid al-Fitr period is expected to occur on March 28 to March 30, 2025,
02:22and the peak of the Eid al-Fitr period is expected to occur on April 5 and April 7, 2025.
02:31The Sikit Prabowo regionalist said that the peak of the Eid al-Fitr period,
02:341446 Hijriah, is expected to occur on March 28 and April 30, 2025.
02:41Meanwhile, the Eid al-Fitr period is expected to occur on April 5 and April 7, 2025.
02:47Polri will hold the 2025 Eid al-Fitr operation which will be divided into two versions,
02:52to provide a sense of security and comfort for the people during the Eid al-Fitr journey.
02:56The first version is the Eid al-Fitr operation in 8 provinces,
02:59starting from Wilayah Lampung to Bali for 17 days as of March 23,
03:03and the second version is the Eid al-Fitr operation in 28 provinces for 14 days.
03:08Started on March 26, 2025.
03:39We still need to prepare for the potential of the Eid al-Fitr peak,
03:47the Eid al-Fitr and the Eid al-Fitr.
03:49The Eid al-Fitr peak is expected to occur on March 28 and April 30,
04:04while the Eid al-Fitr peak is expected to occur on April 5 and April 7, 2025.
04:13In the statement of the Minister of Transportation, Dudi Purwagandi said,
04:16this year it is estimated that there will be 146,048,000 people who will take the Eid al-Fitr journey.
04:23Where the number of Eid al-Fitr pilgrims this year is full compared to 2024,
04:27which reached 193 million people.
04:30The Ministry of Transportation will also implement a number of functional tolls
04:33and impose toll tariffs to provide the best service for the pilgrims.
04:40For this year, we estimate that the number of pilgrims who will take the Eid al-Fitr journey
04:46is 146,048,000 people,
04:50mostly using private cars, 23%.
04:54Then the original area of ​​the pilgrims is mostly West Java,
04:59in line with East Java and Central Java,
05:01while the destination area is Central Java, East Java, West Java and the Istimewa area of ​​Yogyakarta.
05:09Meanwhile, the government assures President Prabowo Subianto
05:13that the Ministry of Infrastructure and Infrastructure will provide the best security and service for the people
05:18so that the 2025 Eid al-Fitr journey is safe, comfortable and smooth.
05:24From Jakarta, Steven Patimana, IDX News coverage team.
05:28EFFICIENCY OF WFH
05:30Yes, for example, to discuss our topic this time,
05:32the effectiveness of WFH, the pressure, the burden, the peak of the Eid al-Fitr journey,
05:36we have been connected via Zoom with Mr. Terubus Rahadiansa,
05:40he is the General Chairman of the Indonesian Public Policy Analysis Association.
05:43Hello, Mr. Terubus, how are you?
05:45Yes, I'm always healthy, Sir, fasting.
05:47Yes, thank you for your time.
05:49Then Mr. Joko Stewardo,
05:51Deputy General Chairperson of the Endowment and Enhancement of Indonesia's Public Transport.
05:56Hello, Mr. Joko, how are you?
05:58Alhamdulillah, I'm healthy, Mr. Terubus, I'm always healthy.
06:02Yes, Mr. Joko, I'm always healthy.
06:04Okay, before we discuss further,
06:06Mr. Joko, maybe from MTI, you can give us a review of the government's preparation
06:11in preparing the budget for the Eid al-Fitr season in 2025, Mr. Joko?
06:19Yes, if you look at it from the Ministry of Transportation,
06:22it's not much different from the previous years.
06:25But this year, there is a slight difference.
06:28There was a program from home, now it's from anywhere.
06:32So wherever you want, you're welcome.
06:34Because this is also in line with the effectiveness program.
06:40And what's different, actually, what was expected yesterday
06:43is when it will be free by the Ministry of Transportation.
06:48Okay.
06:48Usually, before Ramadhan, the budget has already come out.
06:51But yesterday, we waited and it came out on Monday.
06:54That's two.
06:55Because it includes the budget cut.
06:59Well, this is what made, when there was a compas yesterday,
07:03there was a survey, it could be,
07:09I think it's because there are many parties and so on,
07:11many people choose to use motorbikes.
07:14Well, this is what we pay attention to.
07:16The highest is the motorcycle,
07:18even though the version of the budget is not that.
07:22But the reality is, if it's on the ground,
07:25it's the most motorbikes.
07:27Well, finally, the budget came out together.
07:32It was also added by BUMN, which used to be Rp. 80,000,
07:37the city is now Rp. 100,000.
07:38Fortunately, the DKI PMD has started the policy.
07:42So this PMD is interesting, especially DKI,
07:46there are also many cities, it will also increase.
07:49Central Java too, even outside of Java.
07:53For example, Sumatra-Selatan, even if it's a little,
07:55they have a policy to use motorbikes to the island of Java.
07:59It means that the PMD is also local,
08:02but yes, because there are quite a lot of people in Central Java,
08:04who are being directed, so those who use motorbikes,
08:08that's why the PMD in Central Java,
08:10Kotong Royong, together with the PMD,
08:13the power of the city is around 4-6 buses,
08:16times 35, plus the province also conducts,
08:20so that the motorbikes are together.
08:22Nationally, this is also like last year,
08:26there is also a free ship ticket.
08:29This is interesting.
08:30In addition to the plane ticket,
08:32but the ticket is also down for those who are still able,
08:35those who are not able,
08:36the choice is, if outside the island there is a free ship,
08:40that's the choice.
08:41And this year, thank God, it's still there.
08:44And that's enough,
08:46it doesn't have to go to Java either,
08:47for example, from Batam, they can go to North Sumatra,
08:52and from Kalimantan, there is also going to Sulawesi,
08:55it doesn't have to go to Java.
08:58Okay, Mr. Joko.
08:59So, Mr. Terubos, what do you see
09:01with the various policies that have been issued by the government
09:04to be able to create a smooth, safe condition,
09:08and also safety is prioritized for this year's holiday momentum, Mr. Terubos?
09:14Yes, in my opinion, what has been prepared by the government
09:18is of course how to
09:22first relate to
09:26the differences in the current situation
09:29compared to the previous year.
09:31So, there must be different policies related to
09:37the so-called extreme weather,
09:39and there has been heavy rain at several points.
09:43Well, the potential for landslides and slippery roads
09:48must be anticipated by the government
09:50because our concern
09:52is that this will cause new problems
09:54if we don't really pay attention
09:56to the changing weather conditions.
09:59Second,
10:00Polri itself is now proposing changes,
10:04especially because of the WFA policy,
10:06which was supposed to be started on the 26th,
10:09the local operation or the local operation.
10:12But now it is proposed on the 23rd
10:15because on the 24th, the WFA has started
10:19for Java, Bali, and Sumatra.
10:21So, this is done by Polri.
10:25But the problem is that
10:27how to make sure that during the holidays,
10:34we must also pay attention
10:37not only to toll roads,
10:40arterial roads, national roads,
10:44but also to tourist areas.
10:47Tourist areas must be taken into account
10:51related to this WFA policy
10:53and also related to terminals and stations
10:56to get transportation.
10:58The problem is that
11:00when it was discussed about free tickets,
11:03this is done a lot.
11:04But the problem is that
11:05even in the area,
11:07they never anticipate
11:10by providing adequate transportation.
11:13For example, there is no village transportation.
11:15So, when they arrive in the city,
11:18then the village is still far.
11:21Like this, Jakarta people,
11:23if they go back to their village,
11:24they go to Purworejo.
11:25Even from Purworejo to my village,
11:27it's still 20 kilometers.
11:28If there is no public transport,
11:31it's confusing, sir.
11:32In the end, we can only be arrested
11:35by people who don't know there.
11:37Forced to rent a vehicle or whatever.
11:40Then it ends up with
11:41having a fee.
11:43If you don't have a fee,
11:44it will be another problem
11:45where a new problem will arise.
11:48So, in my opinion,
11:49the government must also help
11:51so that the area provides
11:53adequate transportation, sir.
11:55Especially in the situation
11:57where the roads are slippery
12:00and the land is slippery.
12:01Feeder transportation,
12:02then the change of local operations,
12:04and also the extreme weather
12:05that needs to be taken care of.
12:06How effective this FH can reduce
12:08the density of traffic
12:09at the top of Arus Mudik and Arus Bali.
12:11We will discuss later in the next segment.
12:13Stay tuned with us.
12:23Stay tuned with us
12:31Thank you for staying tuned with us
12:33in Market Review.
12:34In the next segment,
12:35we will share data for you
12:36related to the prediction of the top of Arus Mudik
12:39and then Arus Balik Lebaran
12:40in 2025.
12:42As you can see on your TV screen,
12:45we can see the top of Arus Mudik
12:46on 28th and 30th of March 2025,
12:48then Arus Balik on 5th and 7th of April 2025.
12:52Next, there are traffic congestion points
12:53that need to be anticipated.
12:55Jalan Tol area,
12:56Jalan Arteri,
12:56Alternative,
12:57Tourist Location,
12:58then there is also Rumpah Market
13:00in a number of areas,
13:01Sebidang Crossing,
13:02and Port.
13:04Let's continue the discussion
13:05with Mr. Joko Setiawarno
13:07from the Indonesian Transportation Community,
13:09then there is Mr. Trupus Serhat Yansa,
13:12General Director of the Indonesian Public Policy Analysis Association.
13:15Okay,
13:16in response to the conditions that have been mentioned earlier,
13:18there are several traffic congestion points
13:20that need to be discussed.
13:21Mr. Joko,
13:22is it because of the annual event,
13:25it has become more solid,
13:27more integrated,
13:29the anticipation of locations
13:30that will cause traffic congestion,
13:32especially in the area?
13:35Yes, if it's like this,
13:37as usual,
13:39there is coordination between the center and the area.
13:43Mr. Trupus has mentioned the difficulties in the area.
13:46Actually, this is also related to the center program.
13:50We have suggested,
13:52to inform,
13:53why the center is not as massive as the city of Jakarta
13:57to accommodate the general population.
14:01If we want,
14:04earlier,
14:05there is no difficulty in the area,
14:07and there is not much reduction in people using personal vehicles,
14:11whether it's a car or a motorcycle,
14:13starting now,
14:14the central government must still
14:16accommodate the general population in the area.
14:19Moreover, if we talk about 20 years later,
14:21Indonesia is gold.
14:23Jakarta is good now,
14:24because 20 years ago,
14:26it means that it must be massive now.
14:28If not, it will be like this every year.
14:29Our discussion is like this,
14:30there is no change, right?
14:32If the area needs to be prepared,
14:34there are also fiscal constraints.
14:36They are not as big as the DKI.
14:38This is the role of the center, there must be a lot.
14:39And,
14:40transportation is a duty of the country,
14:43not an option.
14:44This is already a duty.
14:45So, it's not a burden,
14:46but a duty of the central government.
14:49This can happen,
14:50later there will be a group of central government,
14:51even if it's a creation in the country,
14:52why doesn't it include public transportation?
14:54Because it's the rule of law.
14:55The connection is now,
14:57at a time like this,
14:59not yet, there was a wholesale market.
15:01Some wholesale markets have actually been anticipated,
15:04built, there is a drive-over,
15:06if it's difficult to move.
15:08The point is,
15:10it's not like before,
15:11especially after the toll road, right?
15:14Forgetting the role of the artery road.
15:16Of course, the artery road,
15:18let's say,
15:19if there is a rest area on the toll road,
15:21the driver can't
15:23meet the expectations of the toll road users.
15:25He must get out of the toll road.
15:27Well, this is given information,
15:29that if you go out of the toll road,
15:31it doesn't add to the cost.
15:32Well, so that it's not far from the toll gate,
15:35the area is asked to make
15:38a temporary rest area.
15:41Yes, they are.
15:43But in fact, there are still many options for the rest area.
15:46There are still many options for the driver.
15:49Even if you look at the food stalls,
15:51there are many choices of food,
15:53and it's cheaper.
15:54Well, this needs to be informed.
15:55It's cheaper.
15:56Indeed, some toll gates are not far from the toll road.
16:00For example, Salatiga,
16:01it's not up to 2 kilometers, it's already lined up.
16:04It's not up to 2 kilometers,
16:06it's half a kilometer, it's lined up with restaurants.
16:08Yes, it's that long.
16:10That's Salatiga.
16:12Well, if you go to Jogja,
16:13just make it.
16:15This is also a drawback.
16:16It means there are new opportunities.
16:19New opportunities
16:21to get more people in the area.
16:25But we really need the local authorities.
16:26Because all this time,
16:28there were friends in the area,
16:31there were volunteers,
16:32I forgot now.
16:33Usually there are volunteers to help, right?
16:35Yes, they usually pass by.
16:37Okay, Mr. Joko.
16:39So, Mr. Turbos, how do you see
16:41the effectiveness of the WFA policy
16:43to reduce the density of the toll roads this year?
16:47Is this a policy that is quite accurate
16:50considering there will be 146 million people
16:53who will take the toll road?
16:56Yes, indeed, if you refer to
16:59Surat Eidaran Kemenpan RP No. 2,
17:02it is done for all,
17:05all ASNs, both in the center and in the area.
17:09The problem is,
17:12actually, this is also related to
17:15the impact of public services
17:18that are disrupted, for example.
17:21There is also a link to this.
17:23Many ASNs that are often not disciplined
17:25take advantage of this.
17:26It means, there are in the ASNs,
17:28the term, what is it,
17:30ready for commando 804.
17:31It means, leaving at 8 o'clock,
17:33in the afternoon, it's empty,
17:35there's nothing to do, just sit down.
17:37Then at 4 o'clock, go home.
17:38That has become a trend in this area,
17:40what is it called, ASN.
17:42Well, this is what I think needs to be monitored.
17:44But, related to
17:46disrupting the traffic jam,
17:48of course, this can mean
17:50that this policy should indeed,
17:53because this is for the first time,
17:55must also be monitored.
17:57Because, as mentioned,
17:58this WFA is related to work.
18:00They must be burdened with the burden of work.
18:03Because if not,
18:06then this WFA is only made
18:08to meet friends, drink coffee,
18:10or even if fasting,
18:12sometimes there are also those who drink coffee,
18:14then go out with neighbors,
18:16with friends.
18:17Well, I think this is ineffective.
18:18Because of that, of course,
18:20this is related to disrupting the traffic jam
18:22is very good,
18:24unless then
18:26we concentrate on
18:28two things.
18:29The first is related to the burden of the ASN itself.
18:31The second is how to prevent traffic jams
18:34from spreading.
18:35Because, indeed,
18:36the population animum for this WFA
18:38is high, as mentioned earlier,
18:40194 million.
18:42But, in my opinion,
18:44it needs to be considered
18:46where the ASN
18:48will no longer be mobile.
18:50It means that when they go home,
18:52or they go home first
18:54in this place,
18:56in a cafe or somewhere else,
18:58then it will no longer
19:00add to the traffic jam.
19:03Because the difficulty is
19:05also because of the situation,
19:07not all in the area have a smooth internet.
19:09That's the problem.
19:11So this is a problem in itself.
19:13Then also
19:15how the ASN itself
19:17is faced by
19:19devices that may not
19:21have or are very minimal
19:23and especially in this area
19:25which is a bit difficult because
19:27then what they see
19:29is that with WFA it is holiday.
19:31So what is limited is that
19:33they don't think of it as a holiday,
19:35they think of it as a holiday.
19:37Our concern will even increase
19:39where the ASN community
19:41will be mobile.
19:43Okay, Mr. Terupus.
19:45This is interesting.
19:47Mr. Joko Olantas, you see
19:49working at CCMT,
19:51is it necessary to expand the WFA
19:53not only for ASN, but we know
19:55private companies may also
19:57do the same thing, or how?
19:59Actually
20:01as far as I know, in 2003
20:03private companies have been doing it quietly.
20:05Okay.
20:07Although at that time there was no national policy
20:09but certain private companies
20:11have been doing it.
20:13But because
20:15it didn't become a national program,
20:17the issue was not so clear.
20:19But it has been done.
20:21So they have their own policy.
20:23But maybe not.
20:25Because it's not a national policy,
20:27not many people know about it.
20:29But maybe not.
20:31As far as I know, from my friends
20:33in the private sector,
20:35they have been doing it since 2009.
20:37That's why the WFA
20:39is not that big.
20:41And I think
20:43there are some obstacles.
20:45In the area,
20:47if the internet connection is still good,
20:49it can run smoothly.
20:51But if the house is in the village,
20:53the village is on top of the mountain,
20:55the internet connection
20:57has been a problem
20:59in the past.
21:01This becomes a problem.
21:03But this also has to be
21:05combined with the policy
21:07of the students.
21:09So it has to be together.
21:11If the students are together, then the students are together.
21:13But if not, then the parents can't go home
21:15because they are left behind.
21:17It has to be together.
21:19I think it can be together.
21:21But later,
21:23this leaves a problem.
21:25It turns out that our logistics
21:27is also getting longer.
21:29Up to 16 days.
21:31They are ready.
21:33They said it was a mock-up.
21:35This becomes a problem.
21:37They have been determined.
21:39Usually, there is certainty.
21:41With the certainty of time,
21:43they have planned to suddenly change
21:45without prior notice.
21:47This becomes a problem.
21:49This must be immediately anticipated.
21:51This becomes a problem
21:53for the economy of the country.
21:55Okay, Mr. Joko.
21:57As we know, the Ministry of Transportation
21:59has projected that there are
22:0133.71 million people
22:03or 23% of drivers
22:05who are expected to use private cars.
22:07What will it be like?
22:09We will discuss it in the next segment.
22:11Mr. Joko, Mr. Tribus, we will take a break.
22:13And, viewers, we will be back
22:15after the break.
22:21JOKO'S BUSINESS
22:23WITH
22:25JOKO
22:27JOKO'S BUSINESS
22:29WITH
22:31JOKO
22:33Thank you for joining us
22:35in Market Review.
22:37The Ministry of Transportation
22:39has projected that there are
22:4133.71 million people
22:43or 23% of drivers
22:45who are expected to use private cars.
22:47Mr. Tribus, what do you think?
22:49What do we need to do
22:51in order to anticipate
22:53the density of traffic
22:55and prevent an incident
22:57like what happened
22:5924 hours ago?
23:01Finally,
23:03what kind of
23:05traffic mechanism
23:07do we need to anticipate?
23:09Mr. Tribus.
23:11I think the government
23:13has prepared
23:15as in previous years
23:17there is one-way
23:19or one-way transportation.
23:21But, the problem is
23:23how to prepare
23:25the people.
23:27There are two types of private cars.
23:29There are private cars
23:31that are owned by
23:33the owner himself.
23:35Okay.
23:37There are also
23:39private cars
23:41that are rented.
23:43So,
23:45because
23:47the minimum service
23:49does not meet
23:51the safety standards,
23:53the drivers
23:55are often
23:57exhausted
23:59due to the speed
24:01and also due to
24:03chasing the target.
24:05So, there is a high
24:07potential for an incident
24:09like what happened
24:11in previous years.
24:13So, we need to
24:15prepare the people
24:17and educate them
24:19to be ready.
24:21So, when we go home,
24:23we need to prepare
24:25our vehicles and
24:27our bodies.
24:29Another thing is
24:31when we go out,
24:33there is a red light.
24:35The red light
24:37often causes
24:39a traffic jam
24:41and it is not
24:43the fault of the BPJT,
24:45but it is the fault
24:47of the local government.
24:49There is often a crime.
24:51There are robbers, beggars,
24:53prostitutes, etc.
24:55They often cause a traffic jam.
24:57That's what often happens in areas like that.
24:59In my opinion,
25:01the government
25:03needs to take into account that
25:05the area is sterile.
25:07So, don't stay there for too long
25:09so that your personal vehicle
25:11can only be used by
25:13prostitutes and children.
25:15Because usually,
25:17physically,
25:19prostitutes and children are not strong enough.
25:21They don't dare to go out.
25:23Some of them are strong, some are weak.
25:25That's what causes
25:27a traffic jam.
25:29So, we need to think about
25:31what to do.
25:33Maybe their legs are numb.
25:35So, we need to change the situation.
25:37Okay.
25:39Mr. Joko Lantas, what kind of
25:41recommendation did WCMTI give
25:43to Mr. Mirsa and
25:45do you agree with
25:47what Mr. Turbos said earlier?
25:49Yes.
25:51We recommended
25:53because
25:55in the past,
25:57prostitutes used
25:59motorbikes.
26:01It's been more than 20 years
26:03that prostitutes
26:05use motorbikes.
26:07It started in 2005.
26:09Without realizing it,
26:11for 20 years,
26:13there are more victims.
26:15It means that there must be victims,
26:17but not many of them have significant
26:19policies.
26:21The policy is to bribe.
26:23It can't be bribed.
26:25We can't bribe people.
26:27It's forbidden,
26:29especially if it's only bribed.
26:31The policy is like this.
26:33We provide facilities
26:35to use motorbikes.
26:37But it doesn't mean anything.
26:39Because the number
26:41is less than 1% of
26:43real motorbikers.
26:45In the last two years,
26:47I've been in Jiwada Port.
26:49It feels like
26:51it's quite a lot.
26:53Parents bring their children
26:55to ride motorbikes.
26:57The journey
26:59is more than
27:015 hours in total.
27:03From home to destination.
27:05It's quite a long journey.
27:07They choose to do it on a Sunday
27:09because in Lampung, the area is remote.
27:11The government doesn't have
27:13a specific policy.
27:15We have proposed it.
27:17It's been 20 years
27:19that prostitutes use motorbikes.
27:21It's like this.
27:23There's nothing new.
27:25It means that we have to
27:27develop public transportation in the area.
27:29The number of prostitutes
27:31is decreasing.
27:33Whether it's true or not,
27:35we'll see later.
27:37I hope there won't be any accidents.
27:39There won't be any accidents.
27:41But the first victim
27:43will be the one who
27:45brings their children as a victim.
27:47That's what we've been doing.
27:49The government has
27:51prohibited
27:53or prohibited
27:55not to bring their children.
27:57We have ministers,
27:59women and children.
28:01They don't bring their children.
28:03Maybe because they've never been a prostitute.
28:05Or maybe because
28:07it's difficult for the government
28:09to see a prostitute.
28:11It's different.
28:13It's different to see a prostitute.
28:15Even so, the condition is under control.
28:17It's safe.
28:19Those are some points
28:21that the government needs to consider.
28:23Like the implementation of this
28:25motorbike can be a
28:27stronger concern
28:29for Mr. Joko and Mr. Terubus.
28:31So that it can protect
28:33the safety
28:35and comfort
28:37for the youth
28:39in this holiday season.
28:41Mr. Terubus, Mr. Joko, thank you for the information
28:43and the update.
28:45Good luck with your activities.
28:47Stay healthy. See you again.
28:51Mr. Mirsa, don't go anywhere.
28:53We'll be back
28:55with another interesting topic.
28:57The strategy to release Indonesia
28:59from the middle income.

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