Julieta Prandi se prepara para enfrentar un juicio penal el próximo 7 de agosto por abuso sexual contra su exmarido, Claudio Contardi. En una entrevista exclusiva, Julieta revela detalles de la violencia económica y emocional que sufrió durante años. A pesar de las dificultades legales y personales, Julieta se muestra decidida a buscar justicia no solo para ella sino también para otras mujeres víctimas de violencia de género.
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00:00That's right, Kari has just left. Julieta, we thank you for also stopping for a minute.
00:05She is already connected and well, listening to the program.
00:08Hi Kari, how are you?
00:09Hi Julieta, thank you very much for giving us this little moment.
00:12I imagine how mobilized you must be with so many years of struggle
00:16and now that your ex-husband says and makes this false complaint against you.
00:22What is your feeling today?
00:25Well, I understand that it is not a false complaint.
00:28I mean, he, the son, accuses me of a false complaint
00:32when I tried to recover my first apartment.
00:36I think you were talking to Javier Baños, who is my lawyer.
00:39Yes, we are talking to him.
00:40Who, of course, carries out my sexual abuse trial on August 7,
00:43which starts a criminal trial that faces a penalty of about 20 years in prison.
00:50This is simply a collection of all the violence that I have suffered,
00:54including economic violence.
00:56I am not going to explain myself in legal terms.
00:58That is what my lawyer is for.
01:00But there is a phone conversation that I think you have had several times,
01:03where he himself is contradicting himself in this alleged counterclaim,
01:08of the counterclaim, of the I don't know what.
01:10So, to make it very clear, Julieta,
01:13because this story of so much pain has had so many ups and downs and so many moments,
01:19explain to us exactly, then, what is the novelty?
01:22What is happening?
01:23Is it a false complaint that your son is telling you about?
01:25No, the novelty is that ...
01:27Let's see, let's make a little history.
01:29Before I got married, I even signed an administrative general power,
01:34which I revoked when I left my house threatened with death in 2019.
01:38Imagine, right?
01:39During those years, he charged and managed my money and my accounts.
01:43He has signed in my name.
01:46In your name.
01:47So, he handled many economic issues and I found out
01:52with the course of the years of things.
01:54Among them, my first apartment,
01:57which I very excitedly put as part of payment
02:02for a larger one at the time, on Calle de Esa.
02:05Well, which later ends up being written in the name of Contardi,
02:09the father of my children, and the mother.
02:13Yes?
02:14It was before I got married.
02:16In theory, that apartment of mine, Soltea, was going to be part of the payment.
02:20But this was left out of the question.
02:22I never sold it, I never received any money.
02:25And if I had really sold it,
02:27it is that after that apartment of Esa, it became my property.
02:31Do you understand?
02:32It's like, oh, I'll give you this and let's buy such a thing together.
02:35And well, it didn't happen.
02:36After many years, I denounced all these things.
02:40And some are very proligately made with papers.
02:43You can discuss it.
02:46How a 18-year-old person, at the time,
02:49bought that apartment, which did not receive any money.
02:52But beyond whether or not he says it on paper,
02:55in this conversation, he himself is saying
02:59that he wants to return the apartment because he felt guilty of the act,
03:02knowing what had happened.
03:04That is, he was benefited from an economic scam
03:08that his father made.
03:10So it's like, well, okay, we can discuss it,
03:14but we can't discuss that it's his voice,
03:16the one who's saying that.
03:17And now he denounces me for false denunciation.
03:21Now, Julieta...
03:22I point to one, in the event that he proves that it is impossible,
03:26to a fine.
03:28On the other hand, they face years in prison.
03:30Totally.
03:31Now, Julieta, I was asking your lawyer,
03:33but you just appeared, and I'm going to ask you the question.
03:36The audio of that conversation,
03:38which we have shared here in the afternoon,
03:42and we are now reviving it.
03:44I notice you clearly.
03:46You knew perfectly well what to ask.
03:49Let's say, you were waiting for his call.
03:52Because...
03:53Tell me how, before that conversation.
03:55Yes, yes.
03:56The text messages are in the cause.
03:58He sent me text messages after a few years
04:00of not having contact with him.
04:02Yes.
04:03He sent me a text message as a result of seeing a note
04:05that I made with Fantino on a Friday,
04:07in a very chaotic situation with justice,
04:10where they wanted to get one of my children out,
04:12when my children did not want to go with the father,
04:14because of violence.
04:15So, I give that note,
04:17which is in Fantino's note,
04:19everywhere to see.
04:21As a result of that note, he writes to me and says,
04:23Can I call you?
04:24Yes.
04:25And I, who already distrust my shadow,
04:28Yes.
04:29I put it to record the conversation.
04:31What you hear is the conversation
04:33after he sends me that message.
04:35Of course I asked him all the questions
04:37for him to tell what I knew.
04:39Perfect.
04:40Of course.
04:41I imagine what you were...
04:42This is his conversation.
04:43What you were feeling...
04:44Of course, in the following days,
04:45there is a whole WhatsApp conversation.
04:47Yes.
04:48There are the messages,
04:49where he made the attempt to return the apartment,
04:51he even put a lawyer to get those papers in front of him,
04:54and from one day to the next, he went back
04:56and did not return anything.
04:58What happened? Did he show up late?
04:59That's all that happened.
05:00Sure.
05:01Because he was very determined to return it to you.
05:03I don't know. I don't live with them.
05:04I don't know them.
05:05You never talked to...
05:06He was determined because of the guilt, I suppose.
05:08Sure.
05:09But you never talked to the son of a country.
05:11No.
05:12All the messages are in the case.
05:13Ok. Ok.
05:14Well, I imagine here my colleagues...
05:16All this in detail, with...
05:18What? What?
05:19With legal figures, the technical explanation...
05:21The technical and legal explanation can be given to you by Javier Baños,
05:24who is my lawyer,
05:25in fact, he will be in court on August 7th,
05:27and he has all this cause and all the history of all this
05:32for many years, for five years.
05:35Totally.
05:36Julieta, what are your expectations?
05:38August 7th will become, in front of you,
05:41like the portal that can take you to justice,
05:45to what you consider justice.
05:47Of course.
05:48What do you expect from that day?
05:51Yes, and let's separate one thing,
05:53because I was on the radio and I saw your headline,
05:55a department is not played here.
05:57There was already an agreement, the issue was closed.
05:59I don't care about the department, it's already there.
06:01It's living, in fact, in my apartment.
06:03Yes.
06:04It's already there, the department is already there.
06:06Yes.
06:07This is just a coletazo to see how you can hurt me a little.
06:10Of course, of course, of course.
06:12But August 7th...
06:13I don't care if there is justice.
06:15Yes.
06:16August 7th, August 7th is precisely for sexual abuse.
06:20That's why.
06:21For the violence that I received from this man.
06:23So I don't care about economics,
06:25it has nothing to do with economics here.
06:28And he's going to have to pay,
06:29because I hope justice is up to what this complaint is,
06:32what the psychological tests are,
06:34which I took, which I carried out,
06:37and they say that I don't lie.
06:39On the other hand, on the other hand,
06:40you don't have to take tests.
06:41If I were so innocent, I would.
06:43Well, but I imagine that justice also looks at it, right?
06:46And puts the magnifying glass on the matter.
06:48Now...
06:49Obviously.
06:50It's part of what's going to happen in August.
06:52Julieta, according to your stories,
06:54because many times I have heard you speak
06:56and you convey very clearly
07:01what you lived,
07:02which is something like the most similar to horror,
07:05to the nightmare.
07:07What would you think is fair to you?
07:09How would you feel more at peace?
07:11What result should this story have?
07:16An exemplary sentence in prison
07:18that serves to set a precedent
07:21for all the causes of violence
07:23that at the moment are still obsolete,
07:27that have no punishment.
07:29I don't say it because of me,
07:30I say it because of the number of women
07:31who are victims of gender violence,
07:33even of femicides.
07:34Then...
07:35This should start to happen in justice much more often.
07:37Yes.
07:38My case is known because I have a job that is public.
07:40Yes.
07:41But if not, it wouldn't be known.
07:42And this is there every day in the courts.
07:44Yes.
07:45Do you know how hard it was for me
07:46to get to a trial date?
07:48Many appeals.
07:49Yes.
07:50Many times insisting.
07:51Many times the legazo put in a drawer.
07:54Months and months in each room,
07:57in each house,
07:59in I don't know where.
08:00I don't know all the terms.
08:01I say the little houses.
08:02In each little house there was a time,
08:04eight months, ten months.
08:06Yes, it is tremendously impressive
08:09because you, Julieta,
08:10are a woman of the media,
08:12a woman with a very strong personal brand
08:16within the media.
08:18And the horror of thinking
08:20that if it is up to you,
08:21this bureaucracy and this struggle,
08:23to go swimming like the salmon against the current,
08:26what is left for any woman
08:29from the urban-urban area,
08:31let's say a woman without resources,
08:33a woman without educational resources
08:37like the ones you have,
08:38without a television camera that is at your service,
08:41without the contacts you should have,
08:43what is left for her?
08:44Without a lawyer who defends you
08:45because for that you need economic means.
08:50Without a lawyer who defends you.
08:52And without a lawyer who defends you
08:53you will not find justice.
08:54And on top of that,
08:55how difficult it is to find justice
08:56even having lawyers.
08:57But beyond the lawyer...
08:58What is left for her?
08:59No, wait, wait.
09:00Your weight, what?
09:01Your figure, your name,
09:03your possibility of being now
09:04giving a mobile phone live
09:05on a television program.
09:07That weighs too, Julieta.
09:08It helped me to make it known,
09:10but for five years
09:13I did not charge the food bill
09:15and I ended the civil part
09:16with an agreement to finish
09:18and to be healthy.
09:20But the reality is that
09:22not even with all the exposure,
09:24with everything you want to say,
09:25with all my studies,
09:26with everything you want,
09:27I could not even get the food bill.
09:29No, totally.
09:30Not even to return my house.
09:31As it happens to so many people.
09:33In fact, it took me a year and a half
09:35to be able to enter my own house.
09:37Until the judge gave me permission
09:39to enter my own house,
09:40he lived in my house
09:41and I rented the other house in Escobar
09:43and I received money
09:44and I did not even pay for school.
09:45Juli, then you want
09:47to tell my prisoner
09:49what you just said,
09:50that you are an exemplary conviction,
09:52what you are a prisoner,
09:53he is the father of your children.
09:55What's up with that?
09:57He sees your children...
09:58Well, father, in reality,
09:59the title is too big for him.
10:00Let's see.
10:01Father, no.
10:02Because they don't want to.
10:03Father is a person who watches
10:05for your rights,
10:06for your protection,
10:07for your health,
10:08for your education.
10:09He is someone who cares.
10:10There are many more parents,
10:11parents of the heart,
10:12people who have nothing to do
10:13with the blood,
10:14and who care about a child.
10:16A father does not make you.
10:18Putting the seed,
10:19you are not a father.
10:20Yes?
10:21It comes with responsibilities
10:22and obligations,
10:23the title of a father.
10:24That is not being a father.
10:26Is he the biological father?
10:27Yes.
10:28Yes.
10:29But then he did nothing.
10:30His children and their children
10:31do not want to see him
10:32and they do not see him.
10:33Today I notice you
10:34with another security, Julieta.
10:37With another foundation.
10:39I see you standing in another way.
10:41What happened?
10:42Tell us.
10:43What's wrong with you?
10:44No.
10:45First,
10:46now you are listening to me angry
10:48because this makes me angry,
10:50but I am extremely well,
10:52I am happy,
10:53I am in a moment of my life
10:54very full,
10:56I am working,
10:57I am in a relationship,
10:58I have a beautiful family.
11:00Last Friday
11:02I had the distinction in the chamber,
11:04in the Porteña legislature,
11:06for my novel,
11:07which is actually
11:08for the dissemination
11:09of women's human rights.
11:10So,
11:12that gives you the guideline
11:13that things
11:14I did not do so badly.
11:16I went through the horror
11:18and I had to rebuild myself
11:20and hopefully what I had to go through
11:23and that became so well known
11:25very to my regret,
11:26because ultimately
11:27one does not like
11:28that this is ventilated,
11:29one does not like
11:30to be exposed to this.
11:31It is very uncomfortable
11:32and it is very painful for one.
11:34One would rather not.
11:35But when you do not find justice,
11:37in justice,
11:38you have to look for it somewhere.
11:40That's why this case was so widespread.
11:42And I hope it ends in August and that's it.
11:44I hope, I hope it does end.
11:46So everyone can continue with their lives.
11:48But now with this security
11:50and this journey you have today,
11:52what would you say to Julieta
11:54from a couple of years ago,
11:56the one who could not
11:58enter her own house,
12:00the one who was so fragile,
12:01hurt, vulnerable.
12:03What would you say to her today?
12:05No, I only have to say thank you.
12:08You know?
12:10I am here for me.
12:12For everything I did,
12:13for everything I had to suffer.
12:15And because one day I said,
12:16up to here.
12:18And I lost the fear.
12:20I have no more reproaches for me.
12:21At some point I had it.
12:22I'm not angry with me anymore.
12:24I just have to say thank you.
12:26How nice.
12:27I am very proud of the person
12:29and the woman I am,
12:30the mother I am.
12:32With a very calm head.
12:35And who supported you?
12:36Who accompanied you?
12:37Who supported you?
12:39Who lent you his shoulder to cry
12:41when you had this situation
12:43of so much fear?
12:44My love.
12:45My love, Emanuel.
12:47How long have you been with Emanuel?
12:52In August it will be five years.
12:54Ah, it's been five years.
12:55Wow.
12:56How does time go by?
12:57My love, who has always been.
12:58Yes.
12:59My children.
13:00Yes.
13:01My children who were the reason
13:03why I escaped from my house.
13:06And to save them too.
13:08Horrified.
13:09Scared to death.
13:11With a very crude situation.
13:14That no one wished for.
13:17But, well, and my parents,
13:19whom I have seen again after I left.
13:21After four and a half years not seeing them.
13:23My sister.
13:24My affections.
13:25My co-workers.
13:27My friends.
13:28The people who really love me
13:30and who know everything that happened.
13:31Because there are many people who know what happened.
13:34Some are even witnesses of the trial.
13:37Julieta, what would you tell Claudio Contardi today?
13:42Nothing.
13:44Nothing.
13:46Not even complete contempt and indifference.
13:49I don't care.
13:50I'll tell him to justice.
13:52And what do you tell your children?
13:55Because at some point, some memory, some photo,
13:58some photo of the happy times.
14:02Something must appear.
14:04How do you deal with that?
14:05How do you explain it?
14:06Well, Karine, we're already doing therapy.
14:08No, no, no.
14:09I don't want to go there.
14:10My children are doing very well.
14:13They are in therapy.
14:15They are, above all, happy.
14:18They have a healthy mind.
14:20Don't they name their father?
14:22Has the father disappeared in their lives?
14:25They don't name him.
14:26They don't want to see him.
14:27And they are very well.
14:28And they themselves ask all the time
14:31to let them be in peace.
14:33Because they have now found peace.
14:34How old are you today, Juli?
14:36You have had to go to testify countless times, poor thing.
14:40Nine and fourteen.
14:42Nine and fourteen.
14:43How old.
14:44Now, if we do a timeline,
14:47five years ago you were alone, let's say.
14:50Five years ago you met who today is your partner.
14:54You were alone and you didn't have anyone to go with you.
14:58How do you project yourself from here to five years?
15:02What is the picture you want to see?
15:04The panoramic view, your drone look.
15:06In five years.
15:07Forward?
15:08Yes, forward, of course.
15:13Nothing, I have a lot of dreams on a personal level.
15:18Maybe I will continue with literature.
15:21I like it a lot.
15:22The radio is a great passion that I enjoy.
15:27It has nothing to do with economics.
15:29Projections of things you don't want to achieve,
15:32because you want to fulfill goals and dreams with your partner and your children.
15:37Do you want to marry Emanuel?
15:43Many questions, many questions.
15:45We are great like this.
15:47But would you marry him?
15:52I don't know.
15:53We are not talking about marriage.
15:55We are talking about choosing each other every day.
15:57That is much more than signing a paper.
16:00Totally.
16:01Juli, listen to me.
16:03I would like to know if there is a question from a partner.
16:07And do you want to have children?
16:09Let's see.
16:10There are a couple of questions.
16:12I don't hear anyone.
16:13Raquel Mancini asks if you would like to have another child with Emanuel.
16:26If it had been a few years ago, maybe yes.
16:30I'm not going to lie to you.
16:34I feel pure love for Emanuel.
16:36So he would have been the right person for me.
16:40I would have loved it.
16:42But I think we both have children.
16:44Of course.
16:45We are like in another moment of life.
16:49Of course.
16:50We are enjoying more the couple than the mother and father.
16:55We are already united.
16:57Of course.
16:58They are a united family.
17:00Juli, all my colleagues want to ask you something.
17:03Let's see if everything is fine.
17:05Let's go with Luis Bremer.
17:06A question, Juli, that has to do with this justice.
17:10As you say, there are different houses.
17:12And it analyzes by different levels.
17:14Situations that have to do with the same family.
17:17On the one hand, the economy.
17:18On the other hand, the alleged abuse.
17:20I say it in legal terms.
17:22That will be addressed in August.
17:23I ask you if at some point the progenitor of your children asked for re-linking with them, right?
17:30Always.
17:31Now in the last two years, no.
17:34But in the past, yes.
17:36What happens is that my children don't want to.
17:39And well, I can't go into details.
17:42Sorry.
17:43My children don't want to.
17:44Perfect.
17:46That's where I get to.
17:47Because then they fine me.
17:48No, no.
17:49I want to take you to love.
17:50I'm José Pouzo.
17:51Hello, my love.
17:54I wanted to ask you, because I listen to you and knowing your story.
17:57And knowing so many women who live gender violence.
18:02How do you do it?
18:03The question I usually ask myself is.
18:05How do you do it to trust in love again?
18:08How do you do it to believe in love?
18:10Because the part of the story you have with your love, as you say, is wonderful.
18:14How do you do it?
18:18It's difficult.
18:19It's difficult because it's not the other.
18:21It's you.
18:22Of course.
18:23It's your own enemy.
18:24It's your own ghost.
18:25It's your own demon.
18:26Your head.
18:28And I'll tell you the truth.
18:29Obviously, one always tries to enjoy and share.
18:33But you have to do a job that is very obvious.
18:36But it's essential.
18:38It's therapy.
18:39Therapy is fundamental.
18:42I've done all kinds of therapies and I'm in permanent treatment.
18:46That's what centers you.
18:48What makes you think better, with more clarity.
18:52Julieta, this is Carmela Barba.
18:54Hiding those negative thoughts that can invade you.
18:57Hello, Carmela.
18:59How are you?
19:00I bring you something a little cooler.
19:03But for those of us who go through public misfortunes.
19:05Sometimes it's important.
19:07Here, for example, there is silence.
19:09Listening to your testimony.
19:11How do you feel about your environment?
19:13Your work?
19:14Your colleagues who knew you?
19:16But all the people who listen to you with silence and respect.
19:19With a lot of respect.
19:21Did you feel that from the environment?
19:23Yes, with a lot of respect.
19:25Yes, the truth is yes.
19:27Even people I don't know.
19:30It's not like I've worked with everyone.
19:32Yes, with a lot of respect.
19:37With a lot of empathy.
19:39Sometimes they make me angry when they say things that are not me.
19:42And I'm like, no, you're misinforming.
19:44You're telling the opposite.
19:46And it makes me desperate sometimes.
19:48But the reality is that, in general, everyone has been very respectful.
19:54And they have told what they have to tell.
19:57That is neither more nor less than the truth.
19:59The step by step.
20:01Still, it's still uncomfortable.
20:03Puli.
20:04Waiting for you to wait with the camera.
20:06Of course.
20:07Puli, Dani Ambrosino greets you.
20:09You know everything we love you.
20:12Hello, Dani.
20:13Everyone.
20:14I'll stay with that phrase you said a little while ago.
20:18The moment you lost your fear.
20:21When was that moment that you felt you lost your fear?
20:25I remember the note with Alejandro Fantino.
20:28That you could tell that you were really fearless.
20:32And you spoke absolutely of everything.
20:34And above all, of justice.
20:36How did justice treat you at that moment?
20:42Yes, well, there are several moments.
20:45There is one that happened in that house before I left.
20:48Where I told him, looking him in the face.
20:51That I was no longer afraid of him.
20:53And there, the monster ...
20:55He was deluded.
20:57That was one that I remember very well.
21:00And the other was the day before the note with Fantino.
21:05That was a key moment for me in the case.
21:09When the judge tried ...
21:11After they had listened to my children.
21:14In the service of childhood, of San Isidro.
21:16Things that the boys did not have to live.
21:19And that they are having a very bad time.
21:21And they asked me not to go.
21:23The judge intimidated me at that moment.
21:26To give my youngest son.
21:28Or he took me out of custody.
21:30To me.
21:31Who was fighting for his well-being.
21:34And only I kept my children.
21:36Beyond the sentimental part, I speak to you.
21:39Who provided my children.
21:41And the center of home and life was my home.
21:44And that's where, well ...
21:46The lioness came out.
21:48Julieta Cora greets you.
21:50About my corpse they will play a son of mine.
21:53Yes, surely.
21:55Cora greets you.
21:56Julieta, I wanted to ask you about that August 7th.
21:59Which is another important date in your life.
22:01Which is the beginning of the trial.
22:04Hello, Juli.
22:05Yes, we are listening to you perfectly.
22:07Perfect, perfect.
22:08Did you hear what I said?
22:09Yes, everything, everything, everything.
22:11Now, Corita de Barbieri.
22:13Yes, it was clearly heard that you said that about your corpse.
22:17They will do something about your children.
22:19It was very clear.
22:20One more question about Corita de Barbieri.
22:22Yes, I wanted to consult you.
22:24That August 7th will surely be another important date in your life.
22:28I want to consult you.
22:29How do you imagine that moment?
22:31And if he is like that, are you going to ask him not to cross you?
22:38Yes, I have no idea if he will be able to.
22:40I'm going to ask him.
22:41Because I don't want to cross myself.
22:43There are several days.
22:44There are three or four days of trial.
22:46Because all the witnesses have to pass, the experts.
22:48Anyway, it's not a single day of trial.
22:51He asked, the other party asked, that it is not an open trial.
22:56That it is only with the judges.
22:59Why do you think he asked that?
23:05Because he doesn't want everything to be heard, to be known.
23:09Well, we'll see.
23:10We will be attentive, Julie, from August 7th.
23:13I don't care either.
23:14I don't care if nothing else is known.
23:15It's just going to be a bizarre, unpleasant moment for me, yes.
23:21But necessary.
23:22Yes.
23:23To find justice.
23:24We will be with you.
23:26Julieta, thank you for this mobile.
23:28Thank you for this time.
23:29No, please.
23:30For your generosity.
23:31And we send you all our love.
23:34Thank you very much.
23:35Thank you very much.
23:36A big kiss for everyone.