Jay-Z is revealing how he found out the Jane Doe rape accuser allegedly lied about his involvement ... and how attorney Tony Buzbee allegedly pushed her to sue, anyway.
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00:00So, you know, there is a big brouhaha over this case against Jay-Z, this rape case that
00:09was dropped after this woman had essentially recanted and said, I'm going to dismiss this
00:16with prejudice.
00:17Right.
00:18Now, you use the word recant, and I understand why you use the word recant.
00:22Her attorney, or I guess you would say formerly her attorney, Tony Busbee, says she is not
00:26recanting her story and that she firmly stands on what she alleged in the lawsuit, even though
00:32she's dismissed it.
00:33But one of the allegations that Tony Busbee made was that two private investigators went
00:41out and allegedly harassed this woman after she dropped the lawsuit.
00:46Well, it turns out there were two private investigators who went to visit her, and at
00:51least, well, at least one of them has made a declaration in Jay-Z's lawsuit against
00:57Tony Busbee.
00:58For extortion.
00:59For extortion, right.
01:00And this private investigator goes into detail about this meeting that she had, the private
01:05investigator had with the Jane Doe accuser, went to her home and talked to her about Jay-Z's
01:12involvement.
01:13Now, according to these documents filed by the private investigator, the Jane Doe accuser
01:17said no less than four times, Jay-Z did not assault me.
01:23And in fact, she, according to the investigator, the accuser, put it on Tony Busbee, saying
01:30that Tony Busbee is the one who brought up Jay-Z at all.
01:34The Jane Doe accuser says, I absolutely claimed that, alleged that Diddy assaulted me back
01:41in the year 2000, after the VMA awards, and that she said there was also a female celebrity
01:48there who watched this happen.
01:49She says she never brought up Jay-Z, and in these documents, according to the PI, it was
01:55Tony Busbee who brought up Jay-Z.
01:57Well, and also, now we know that this conversation was recorded.
02:05And so, presumably, if this declaration is correct, that the woman said four times, Jay-Z
02:13never assaulted me, presumably that would be on the recording.
02:17That they would have that on the recording, and look, they do not include that recording
02:22in this lawsuit.
02:23Well, but by the way, there's a reason for that.
02:25We should just explain.
02:26To cut through it all, what Jay-Z's lawyers are saying is that Tony Busbee manufactured
02:33this claim to get money.
02:34That's their allegation.
02:35Right.
02:36That they manufactured a claim that wasn't true, and then went to Jay-Z and his lawyer
02:42and said, pay up or else.
02:45And that's what they say the extortion is.
02:47Right.
02:48And that's the heart of Jay-Z's case against Tony Busbee's lawsuit, is saying that this
02:52guy sent me a letter demanding money when he knew full well that I had not done the
02:58things that he put in this lawsuit, because the accuser herself never mentioned Jay-Z.
03:05So that's why this declaration was made by the private investigator.
03:09You know what's really interesting to me about this?
03:12Is that, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but the private investigator said she does
03:18not work for Jay-Z or the lawyers.
03:21Correct.
03:22So who does she work for?
03:23That's, she never says in the declaration, but it is really odd she said that she does
03:28not, was not hired by them.
03:30So why did she go to this woman's house?
03:33I can't figure it out myself.
03:35It's very puzzling.
03:37Tony Busbee has an interesting response to this.
03:40He said, each assertion is flat out false and made up.
03:43The assertions by Jay-Z and by this private investigator.
03:47He adds, Jane Doe called referring counsel, the Ava Law Group, and alleged she was assaulted
03:53by P. Diddy and Jay-Z before her case was ever referred to our firm.
03:58Those investigators likely didn't know that the paper trail will demonstrably prove what
04:03they say to be false.
04:05Yeah, it's interesting.
04:06It looks like he's sort of passing the buck to the initial firm that she reached out to
04:10and maybe filled out an intake form and he's going to lean on what's in that intake form
04:14to say, I just took it as it came and it already included Jay-Z.
04:18What this PI says is that Jay-Z was brought into it by Busbee, that Jay-Z may have been
04:23at this party.
04:24She does remember spotting Jay-Z potentially at the party she alleges it occurred at, but
04:28that in four separate times said Jay-Z did not assault her and that Busbee was the one
04:33who sort of wanted to bring Jay-Z into it in that level.
04:36She also says that when she decided to dismiss the lawsuit, it was because Busbee came to
04:40her and said Jay-Z might try to kill her and come after her.
04:43And she was scared enough that she dismissed the lawsuit.
04:46Can I tell you something that seems evident to me after reading this declaration, after
04:52watching the NBC News interview with the accuser where she was in silhouette, I think this
05:00woman is dealing with some sort of mental illness.
05:04And that gets to, I think, a fundamental problem that Jay-Z has with the extortion lawsuit.
05:10And Derek, hear me out on this, but it seems to me that on the one hand, what Jay-Z is
05:16saying is this woman made claims that have absolutely no basis in reality, that she is
05:23essentially mentally ill and you can't believe necessarily what she's saying.
05:29But then on the other hand, if they're suing for extortion, even if she said those things,
05:34I never claimed Jay-Z did it, Tony Busbee was the one who put me up to it.
05:40Why are you believing that part of what she says?
05:42Right.
05:43You're 100% right.
05:44This is what's called an unreliable narrator.
05:45If she's been on both sides of this issue and he has, by the way, there's another investigator
05:49who's detailed some of the mental health issues that she had.
05:53And Jay-Z submitted a declaration from another investigator who said 90 days, within 90 days
05:57of filing this complaint at all, she was in a mental health treatment facility.
06:01So you're right.
06:02What version of events do we believe?
06:04The one where she says Jay-Z didn't assault her or the one where she says he did.
06:07You're right.
06:08It's all over the map and it does hurt his case.
06:09Hi, my name's Alondra.
06:10I'm from Austin, Texas.
06:12And something about this doesn't make sense.
06:14All I know is that over and over we see how fame, power and money can just put the truth
06:21under the carpet.
06:22And I'm just hoping and praying for the truth for once here in Hollywood.
06:26Well, I will say this about the legal system.
06:29Everybody says it's a search for the truth.
06:31No, it isn't.
06:33It's a search to win.
06:35And that's the way it works.
06:36Which means it's a search for your truth.
06:37It's the search for the version you want out there to convince a jury of.
06:42And that's the way the legal system works.
06:44So this whole thing about search for the truth, that's not our judicial system.
06:49How cynical you are, Harvey.
06:52Am I wrong?
06:53Am I wrong?
06:54I didn't say you were wrong.
06:55I just said you were cynical.
06:56No, it's not even supposed to be.
06:58It's the fortune cookie version of it.
07:00It is.
07:02It is what it's supposed to be.
07:03Lawyers are advocates.
07:04Right, Derek?
07:05I believe in the adversarial justice system.
07:07I'm not as cynical as you, but you do have a point, sir.