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00:00A pause that was necessary, but just to recap, Luna has a relationship of more than 20 years,
00:06she has a son with her 8-year-old partner, and unfortunately,
00:12according to what she has told us through medical examinations,
00:16they realized that her husband, who is just over 40 years old, or her partner actually,
00:22has testosterone at the level of an 81-year-old person.
00:26And I asked you a question, Luna, because I asked you when was the last time
00:31that you had intimacy with your partner or sexual relations,
00:34but you told me that it was even before having your son, how is that?
00:39Yes, hello again.
00:41Hello.
00:43What happens is, well, this problem is more than 10 years old.
00:50Already.
00:51Already, much more.
00:53And well, I have an 8-year-old son, who obviously had it for artificial insemination.
00:59Sorry, you had it, what?
01:01For artificial insemination.
01:03No, infidelity.
01:05Infidelity.
01:07Ah.
01:08Already.
01:09One second.
01:11When you get pregnant, clearly, your husband, I mean, your partner, realizes it,
01:17but he assumes the situation.
01:21Yes.
01:22Anyway.
01:23Already.
01:24And this infidelity starts because you didn't have intimacy with your partner.
01:28How long ago?
01:32How long was the infidelity?
01:34At that time, it was like a few months.
01:40Already.
01:41You don't see that person anymore?
01:45No.
01:46Well.
01:47You don't see her anymore.
01:49The biological father?
01:51Yes.
01:52No, no, no.
01:54It's over.
01:55And did the biological father know that the child was his?
01:59Yes, yes.
02:00But he didn't want it.
02:02Already.
02:03And what did your partner tell you?
02:05How did he assume it?
02:06Did he understand you at some point?
02:08He got angry, obviously.
02:12Already.
02:22Already.
02:42Luna, I want to ask you a question.
02:44Are you in love with your partner?
02:47I love her.
02:48Now in love, I don't know.
02:49But why are you still with him?
02:51We've been through a lot.
02:53It's been 23 years.
02:54But why are you still with him?
02:57We're getting out of COVID.
03:00I was hospitalized for many months.
03:03They intubated me.
03:04I almost died.
03:05And he was by your side?
03:06Yes.
03:07And also of my son.
03:10Already.
03:11Stay on the line.
03:12Stay on the line.
03:13Because I want to ask Bárbara, a psychologist who accompanies us today,
03:18that clearly having that antecedent of the level of testosterone,
03:23is it reversible?
03:24It's reversible.
03:25What a shame it took so long.
03:27How good.
03:28Andrea, you said it.
03:29That we are talking about this topic.
03:31Because so many women and men suffering for nothing.
03:34Because of course it is fundamental.
03:36Everything that happens is important.
03:38But nothing in the sense that it has a solution.
03:41Testosterone.
03:42The same doctor who saw them could have told them that there are supplements.
03:47There is treatment.
03:49So many years that a torture is prolonged.
03:52A situation that even leads them to be unfaithful.
03:55Because obviously if you don't have affection in the house
03:58and you are looking for affection and someone speaks to your ear,
04:00sweetens your ear, as they say,
04:02of course you are going to look at someone else.
04:04And that is understandable.
04:05That's why your partner has so much tolerance that we see in this situation.
04:09Undoubtedly there are more factors that influence here.
04:11And she was on the verge of death.
04:13There are many factors that must be analyzed.
04:15But the essential thing, for what she is calling,
04:18is that this has a solution and does not have to prolong the suffering of him and her.
04:22Did your husband receive treatment at some point?
04:25Your partner, really?
04:26Yes.
04:27They gave it to a urologist.
04:30Already?
04:31And well, there are the results of the testosterone and everything.
04:35And they gave him a special diet.
04:37But apart he had to take some patches of testosterone.
04:42And it turned out?
04:43No, I couldn't touch it.
04:45I couldn't touch anything.
04:47So he left it.
04:48He left that.
04:49And then the injections are very expensive.
04:52Ah, but it's a cost issue.
04:56Of course.
04:59So, after seeing so much negativity,
05:02it's over.
05:05Because all this, this issue,
05:08of going, for example, to a psychologist,
05:12or with a partner, a therapist,
05:14all this is super expensive.
05:16Yes.
05:17And this does not accompany us.
05:18Health accompanies us a lot.
05:20And it's a problem anyway.
05:22In our society.
05:24Yes, it is a very important issue that you raise.
05:27And clearly it is very difficult to be able to do a treatment
05:30or to be able to do a couple therapy
05:32when the state does not guarantee
05:35that it should be a right.
05:37So many families or so many couples
05:40who have had to end a relationship
05:42because they can't solve something that has a remedy.
05:45Now, I don't know what Luna's health system is.
05:48For example, look, in the case of the psychologist.
05:50But the consultants do offer that therapy.
05:52But the problem is that people don't dare to say it.
05:55Welcome, Luna, who said it here.
05:57But you have to say it in the place where it also corresponds.
06:00You have to look for help.
06:01So what happens is that if, for example,
06:02one thinks about the consulting,
06:03how many hours do they give you?
06:05Well, yes.
06:06It depends on the municipality,
06:07it depends on the public administration,
06:08which is the truth that leaves a lot to be said.
06:10We have a system that is very inefficient.
06:13So get to get hours.
06:14And they give you the first hour.
06:15But how many sessions can I get better?
06:18No, it's long.
06:20It's very difficult.
06:21It's that their thing has dragged a lot.
06:23But when the issue is cost,
06:26and there is an economic factor,
06:28it is even more difficult.
06:29Yes, but we would have to see if they agreed
06:31to ask in a CEPAM or a CRS.
06:34Hey, this happens.
06:35Because not all treatments are so expensive.
06:37In addition, there are other alternatives,
06:40other pills.
06:41If he has no other comorbidity,
06:45he could perhaps access pills
06:47that will cause an erection
06:49and he will be able to ejaculate
06:50and he will not have any problem.
06:51Now I want to ask you one last question, Luna.
06:53Beyond the sexual relationship of the act,
06:57are you affectionate?
06:59Because there is another type of expressing love.
07:01No.
07:02I am very skinny.
07:05He does not.
07:07I always look for it.
07:09He does not.
07:10There is no affection.
07:11He does not caress me.
07:13So I eat.
07:14Sure.
07:15Luna, I understand you very well.
07:16You know what?
07:17I would recommend that
07:20he must already be very stressed
07:22and every time you approach him,
07:23he will reject you
07:24because he must be thinking
07:25or he wants us to do something
07:26and I can't.
07:27I can't.
07:28He must be very traumatized.
07:29Very traumatized.
07:30I wish he received help.
07:31I insist,
07:32there are things that can be done.
07:34But you approach him
07:35and tell him clearly
07:36not to have sex.
07:38You tell him.
07:39Luna, thank you very much
07:40for opening your heart,
07:41for the confidence
07:42you deposit in our program.
07:44I thank you very much.
07:45I send you a hug
07:46and I hope that somehow
07:47you can recover that,
07:48which is so important,
07:49especially for you
07:50and for him.
07:51I imagine it is very relevant
07:52for both of you.
07:53Have an amazing day!