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00:00Assalamu Alaikum dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:20Today is Friday, 6th March.
00:22Dear viewers, today we have a very interesting set of stories in our program.
00:27The first story we are going to talk about is the efforts of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
00:37to form a grand alliance.
00:41Why is this not happening?
00:43Obviously, there is a lack of trust here.
00:48Pakistan's Jamia Ulama-e-Islam, Maulana Fazl-e-Rehman Sahib,
00:53why are their affairs not moving forward?
00:56We will talk about this in detail.
00:58But along with this, what is happening between the Pakistan Muslim League Noon and the Pakistan People's Party?
01:03Today, in Lahore, Maryam Sahiba visited a big hospital and released her MS.
01:10What is the story behind this?
01:12Apart from this, our ministers are waiting for a long time.
01:18There was hope that they would get their MS.
01:22We were told that it will happen tomorrow.
01:25But today, when we are talking about this, the ministers are not getting their MS.
01:30But the interesting thing is that all the ministers have their own posts.
01:38In Rawalpindi, Hanif Abbasi Sahib has got a ministry.
01:42In Islamabad, Dr. Tariq Fazal Chowdhury has got a ministry.
01:48But the Chief Executive, Prime Minister, who is supposed to give him a ministry, is silent.
01:55He is meeting Hassan Ayub.
01:57He has an inside story.
01:59We will find out what is the reason behind this.
02:01But first of all, we saw the situation between Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf and Jamia Ulama-e-Islam.
02:09Before the 26th of May, there were daily meetings.
02:15After the 26th of May, there were some differences.
02:19Now, there is an attempt to bring both parties together.
02:25The attempt is to challenge the current government inside the parliament and outside the parliament.
02:31But obviously, there are some concerns.
02:33Both parties share a past with each other.
02:38What are the concerns?
02:40A few days ago, Kamran Murza, the senior leader of the JUIF,
02:44told us about his concerns.
02:48We have conveyed our concerns to him.
02:52We are waiting for his answer.
02:54On 12th or 13th, we had conveyed our concerns.
02:59On 13th, Hussain Sahib asked me to repeat everything.
03:03He said, you can repeat it.
03:05I will not tell you the name.
03:07After that, I repeated it the next day.
03:10After that, there was no answer.
03:13Until there is no answer, I cannot convey it to the Mullah or the party.
03:18Until there is no answer, there can be no decision.
03:22Kamran Murtaza mentioned the concerns in his statement.
03:27But primarily, what are those concerns?
03:31What are the concerns of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf?
03:34For example, Furhadri Sahib, another senior leader of the JUIF,
03:38took a detailed look at Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
03:40What is our problem with Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf?
03:43When PTI becomes serious,
03:45when the leaders outside will not be made independent,
03:51until then, if there is no unity in PTI, then how can there be opposition?
03:56We see that PTI is also a victim of confusion.
03:59If PTI becomes a victim of confusion,
04:02and we have to take a decision based on their leadership,
04:07only then can the rest of the parties have confidence in us.
04:12We do not know what is going on inside them.
04:16For example, your Chief Minister, Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa,
04:21has his own path.
04:25Chaudhry Ghulam Sain Sahib, you have covered politics for decades.
04:30Whatever objections you had regarding Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
04:35Nawaz Sharif Sahib, our leader,
04:38when he has to take a decision, the party stands behind him,
04:41making a line.
04:43Then no one looks back.
04:45Same is with the Pakistan People's Party.
04:48Concerns within parties,
04:50but once they take some decision, then they follow that.
04:53And we see the same thing in small nationalist parties.
04:58There is an objection that Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is in jail,
05:03and there is no communication,
05:05but these outsiders meet each other,
05:08but the more they meet each other,
05:11the more they understand each other,
05:14the more they understand each other.
05:17They meet each other,
05:19but all the people who come from inside,
05:22or we see outside in the parliament,
05:24every person has his own mosque,
05:27he wants to make his own politics,
05:30he wants to make his own impression,
05:34that this is the relationship with my leader,
05:36and the leader has given me a message.
05:38The second person comes and speaks totally opposite.
05:41No, no, this person has told you that this is absolutely wrong,
05:44what I am saying is absolutely right.
05:46The third person will come and say something else.
05:48Yesterday also we talked about this in our programme.
05:50I don't understand the reason for having four focal persons.
05:54With Faisal Chaudhary, it is possible that there are issues,
05:57but I think he was handling well.
06:00Although he has a personal relationship with us,
06:03but professionally, if we were his conductors,
06:07as a lawyer and as a party,
06:09the statements that he had to make,
06:12that was also right.
06:14The Khichdi that Mr. Khaidri is talking about,
06:16what is the Khichdi inside?
06:18We don't have a house,
06:20there is a party there,
06:22there is a leader,
06:24he is in jail.
06:26As long as this is the situation,
06:28nobody has the control over others.
06:31Their problem with PTI is that
06:33no two people are together.
06:35Whoever you talk to,
06:37they say that I have no loyalty to anyone,
06:41nor do I have any sacrifices.
06:45But their plus is that
06:47they are not from any other party.
06:49The whole community is standing behind one person,
06:52and one leader.
06:54The rest are all prominent leaders,
06:56workers or office holders.
06:58Of course, every political party has its own following.
07:02In jail, there were leaders of other parties.
07:05Namaz Shaikh was also in jail,
07:07Asif Ali Zardari was also in jail.
07:10Do you think that
07:12Nawaz Ali's level of discipline is the same?
07:15He was very good in front of me,
07:17I don't think so.
07:19What discipline do you want?
07:21You can get it,
07:23you can get ministries.
07:25They say that there are so many people,
07:27they say that the sky has stopped.
07:29Anyway, leave that,
07:31we have to see the work.
07:33What should we do with this community
07:35that is running towards one side,
07:37they are not impressed with your suit and tie.
07:39I am also not wearing suit and tie.
07:41Yes, you can do whatever you want.
07:43No, they are not impressed.
07:45We heard a statement of Salman Akram Raiya
07:48the other day,
07:50he said that he has received the message,
07:52and I will go and convey this message
07:54to Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib,
07:56and then the matter will move forward.
07:58We respect Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib,
08:01we want him to be a part of this alliance.
08:04Khan Sahib has given instructions
08:06on what to discuss with him.
08:08We will move forward in a positive manner.
08:10Yes, is there any internal news,
08:12or concerns?
08:14It seems that Maulana's party
08:16wants to discuss the matter
08:18in the KPK,
08:20right now the government is PTI.
08:22If they want to take care of their constituency,
08:24then some matters will be decided there,
08:26then the matter will move forward.
08:28No, no,
08:30their main differences are with CMKPK.
08:32They have personal differences,
08:34their constituency is similar,
08:36will CMKPK
08:38take their constituency
08:40and hand it over to Maulana Fazlur Rehman?
08:42This is not a natural area.
08:44Apart from this,
08:46if we talk about
08:48whether to trust Jamiat-e-Ulma-e-Islam,
08:50Tariq-e-Insaaf,
08:52when PTI is not ready to trust themselves,
08:54here they are not ready to trust
08:56Faisal Chaudhry.
08:58Even Salman Akram Raiya
09:00talked about Faisal Chaudhry,
09:02that there should not be a lawyer
09:04who is self-projecting.
09:06Here people
09:08get scared.
09:10Before this,
09:12regarding Maulana Fazlur Rehman,
09:14people have been saying wrong things.
09:16And the recent statement
09:18that has come today,
09:20the provincial president
09:22of KPK,
09:24of PTI,
09:26his statement is also not credible.
09:28What statement?
09:30He is talking about Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
09:32Yes, he is talking about Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
09:34But apart from this,
09:36I want to talk about one last thing.
09:38Do you remember that
09:40Khosla Sahib was very in
09:42in cases, in going to jail, in meetings.
09:44Latif Khosla Sahib.
09:46Yes, Latif Khosla Sahib.
09:48Then Panchodha brothers became very in.
09:50Then Faisal Chaudhry became very in.
09:52In this way,
09:54people come and go.
09:56Sher-e-Fatah-e-Marwat was thrown out.
09:58So, the party
10:00which cannot run with its own people,
10:02it will go to hell with JUFA.
10:04When you were talking about
10:06Fitri and non-Fitri unity,
10:08do you think that People's Party and Noon League
10:10is Fitri unity?
10:12Yes, absolutely.
10:14Muslim League Nawaz has surrendered
10:16Sindh province.
10:18In the same way,
10:20People's Party has surrendered
10:22Punjab practically.
10:24That is why it is Fitri unity.
10:26But neither JUFA has surrendered KPK,
10:28nor PTI has surrendered KPK.
10:30Both have surrendered KPK.
10:32Both have surrendered KPK.
10:34Junaid Akbar Sahib,
10:36who is the PTI RT President
10:38in KPK,
10:40his statement,
10:42about which Hassan has mentioned,
10:44listen to it.
10:46The matter of opposition
10:48has stopped till Fazl-ur-Rehman.
10:50Do you see any progress in that?
10:52Actually, we will take Mr. Khan's
10:54recommendation.
10:56Our Maulana is a true man.
10:58He is protected
11:00by our party.
11:02We are also protected
11:04by his party.
11:06If we get a chance,
11:08we will share
11:10the protection of Maulana
11:12with him.
11:14We will try to
11:16bring all the opposition parties
11:18together.
11:20Shibli Faraz Sahib is
11:22also saying that
11:24we will start the movement
11:26only with Maulana.
11:28We want Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
11:30to join our party.
11:32We are discussing with him.
11:34In the next few days,
11:36we will decide the matter with him.
11:38After Eid,
11:40we will do our political
11:42struggle with full force.
11:44Mr. Bajaj,
11:46what is the protection?
11:48Junaid Akbar Sahib
11:50would have given more clarity.
11:52You often say that
11:54Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
11:56has so much power
11:58in its hands that
12:00it can start the movement
12:02as a single party whenever it wants.
12:04The Punjabis are saying
12:06that why should Maulana die?
12:08Maulana has a few seats.
12:10He has a fan following.
12:12I am not saying fan following.
12:14He has a support base.
12:16He has loyalist workers.
12:18If we look at the seats,
12:20neither the British Assembly
12:22nor the National Assembly
12:24can put a dent in it.
12:26Should we have confidence
12:28in our supporters?
12:30He has written a letter
12:32that he does not have confidence in us.
12:34Some say that he is
12:36a non-natural party.
12:38Leave him alone.
12:40Let him work.
12:42What can you say
12:44about him being
12:46a non-natural party?
12:48I do not even know English.
12:50That is the problem.
12:54You are saying that
12:56there can be political concerns
12:58about Junaid Akbar.
13:00What is wrong in that?
13:02There is no need for
13:04Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
13:06to go back to school
13:08to understand the politics
13:10of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
13:12Maulana does not even have
13:14ten lions.
13:16He wants to take Maulana
13:18to his tombstone.
13:20He wants to use Maulana.
13:22He is not a Pandit.
13:24That is the problem.
13:26There is no one in the PTI
13:28who is a Pandit.
13:30But he used Maulana.
13:32He said that he will do everything
13:34for us.
13:36That is a political statement.
13:38He still respects Maulana.
13:40He did not do it on purpose.
13:42He did it after cutting his hair.
13:44He did it after cutting his hair.
13:50He did it out of respect.
13:54He did it out of respect.
13:58He offered him to join the alliance.
14:00Maulana decided that
14:02his mandate has been stolen
14:04in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
14:06His mandate is with Tariq-e-Insaf.
14:08He said that until we get
14:10our real mandate,
14:12we will not
14:14meet Maulana.
14:16Why did Maulana
14:18demand an election audit
14:20from Tariq-e-Insaf?
14:22Why did he demand it from the PTI?
14:24He has a doubt that
14:26his mandate has been stolen
14:28in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
14:30He should have become the government
14:32but he became the PTI.
14:34This is Maulana's position.
14:36Maulana is a leading
14:38political party.
14:40If Maulana is removed,
14:42the rest of the alliance
14:44will be destroyed.
14:46You saw the Swabi Jalsa
14:48with 4-5 thousand people.
14:50The PTI started an inquiry
14:52as to why the Jalsa was not successful.
14:54The PTI has its own government
14:56in the province.
14:58They themselves accepted
15:00that the PTI has failed.
15:02They themselves accepted
15:04that they will investigate
15:06why the people have been
15:08denied an election.
15:10This is a matter of
15:12Tariq-e-Insaf and
15:14JUIF.
15:16This is a matter of
15:18Tariq-e-Insaf and
15:20JUIF.
15:22The PTI has failed.
15:24It cannot be a councillor.
15:26It cannot be a judge.
15:2890% of the time,
15:30you are busy
15:32giving excuses.
15:34Why don't you attend
15:36the Jalsa?
15:38You are not going anywhere.
15:40If you ask any question now,
15:42you will be asked
15:44why the PTI failed.
15:46Why the PTI failed.
15:48Why the PTI failed.
15:50Enough.
15:52Let's move on.
15:54Mr. Chaudhary is right.
15:56You have no other political
15:58issue.
16:00The Pakistan-Muslim League
16:02and the PPP are natural
16:04allies according to Mr. Hassan Ayub.
16:08The statements
16:12that are being made
16:14are very harsh.
16:16But are they
16:18really statements?
16:20They are natural.
16:24Mr. Nadeem Afzal Chand
16:26says that
16:28our alliance is not
16:30an alliance.
16:32We talk about helplessness.
16:34You see,
16:36Maryam Nawaz Sharif is
16:38the daughter of the head of the party.
16:40She is the prime minister.
16:42When the President of Pakistan
16:44goes, she does not welcome him.
16:46She should do it legally.
16:48The governor of the province
16:50calls the president
16:52or the governor.
16:54We think you are obedient.
16:56We are not obedient.
16:58I don't think she is obedient.
17:00Okay.
17:02I think she is disobedient.
17:04The attitude of the non-league is
17:06non-democratic.
17:08They do not want to
17:10support the non-league.
17:12Mr. Chaudhary is asking
17:14a natural or non-natural question.
17:16But Mr. Faisal Karim Kundi
17:18is also saying that
17:20the current setup
17:22is on our strong shoulders.
17:24The key is with us.
17:26We also
17:28ran a united government.
17:30We did not even have a majority.
17:32Without a majority, we ran a government.
17:34We ran a united government.
17:36No one complained.
17:38But here, there is no honour.
17:40We talked about it again and again.
17:42Now let's see what the party decides.
17:44Yesterday, Mr. Chand was in our program.
17:46He said that we are not a united government.
17:48We are a united parliament.
17:50We are forced to run the system.
17:52He is right.
17:54So, the next election is in the hands of the People's Party of Pakistan.
17:56Whenever they want to hold the elections.
18:00Whenever they want to hold the elections,
18:02we can hold it.
18:04No one can stop us.
18:06But when we talk about Mr. Rana Sinhawala,
18:08he is saying that everyone
18:10will have to work on old salaries.
18:12He is just talking in the air.
18:14Will the People's Party
18:16work with you on the same salary?
18:18Why should I say about them?
18:20I say about myself that
18:22we will work on the same salary.
18:24They are with us.
18:26We are with them.
18:30But Mr. Khurram Dastgir
18:32lost the election.
18:34He is from Gujranwala.
18:36Rana Sinhawala won.
18:38Yes, he is right.
18:40He is fasting too much.
18:42We don't let him eat.
18:44He is a part of the government.
18:46Mr. Khurram Dastgir
18:48is talking about
18:50the situation on the ground.
18:54We have a desire
18:56and a policy
18:58that we should work together.
19:00The one who wants to win,
19:02should win.
19:04The People's Party
19:06refused to work together.
19:08They said they won't take the executive authority.
19:10Yes, Mr. Joy.
19:12What do you want to say?
19:14I want to say that
19:16from the beginning
19:18your assessment is
19:20that
19:22you said yesterday
19:24that there is a possibility
19:26that Tehrik-e-Ishaf
19:28and Pakistan People's Party
19:30may join hands.
19:32Their number game
19:34will be fulfilled.
19:36But I don't think
19:38this is the case.
19:40I don't think so.
19:42How long does it take
19:44to create and
19:46destroy the people's party?
19:48Tell me.
19:50Let me tell you
19:52about Malwa.
19:54Who is the government
19:56of the People's Party
19:58in Subah Sindh?
20:00Who is the government
20:02of the People's Party
20:04in Balochistan?
20:06Who is the chairman
20:08of the Senate?
20:10Yusuf Raza Gilani.
20:12Who is the Deputy Speaker
20:14of the National Assembly
20:16of the Pakistan People's Party?
20:18Benazir Income Support Program
20:20is a very important issue
20:22through which
20:24every year,
20:26every year,
20:28every year,
20:30every year,
20:32every year,
20:34every year,
20:36every year,
20:38every year,
20:40every year,
20:42every year,
20:44every year,
20:46every year.
20:48Do you
20:50do PTI
20:52Do you do PTI
20:54in a balanced way?
20:56What can PTI
20:58do in the current situation?
21:00What will the PTI do
21:02in the current situation?
21:04What can PTI do
21:06in the current situation?
21:08What will the PTI do
21:10was that you should form a government with the People's Party. Dr. Araf Alvi and other
21:16serious people felt that this was appropriate. But the leadership of PTI does not want to
21:23come into this work. They are not ready to join any government or any arrangement with
21:30the People's Party and Muslim League. Whether one likes it or not. Now, what I am talking
21:38to you, I am talking in two parts. And I am doing this because you have raised this
21:45subject. They have only one political choice. The People's Party and the Muslim League
21:52should form a grand coalition government at every level. From Sindh to Markaz, from
21:59Markaz to Punjab, from Punjab to Balochistan. There is no other way. This is a political
22:07issue. The people's party has taken a completely wrong attitude. They have not even read the
22:14leaflets you have asked them to read. You are amazing. And as you know, the new judges
22:21who are going to be elected from Sindh. This is a different matter of Sindh. They have
22:26their own government. No, no. The President of Pakistan has to sign. And all the people
22:33here are independent. There are governments in two provinces. There is only one political
22:40party which has two provinces. And its name is the People's Party. This is your view.
22:45I think they should have joined. And just like the new Prime Minister, Bilawal, they should
22:50have joined. And they should have given work. If there is a little bit of stability. Now
22:57this is not going to work. Neither the People's Party is going to work with them, nor are
23:02they going to work with them. This is going to be a struggle.
23:05Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
23:11last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
23:18party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
23:23Yes, please.
23:53Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
23:58last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
24:03party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
24:08Yes, please.
24:23Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
24:28last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
24:33party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
24:38Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
24:43last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
24:48party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
24:53Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
24:58last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
25:03party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
25:08Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
25:13last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
25:18party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
25:23Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
25:28last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
25:33party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
25:38Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
25:43last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
25:48party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
25:53Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
25:58last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
26:03party.
26:33Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
26:38last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
26:43party. And there are extraordinary circumstances. So everyone will have to move forward together.
26:48Shahid Khan Abbasi is saying the same thing again and again. We were listening to a program
26:53last night. He is saying that the current situation is not the work of any political
26:58How much life is there in this?
27:00If the government is on its feet,
27:05the government is saying that we are performing,
27:07the government is saying that all these matters are under control,
27:10don't you think it's like,
27:13you say that there are desires, and then...
27:15That's what it is.
27:17Is there any life in Khaqan Abbasi?
27:20What he is saying,
27:22that's another thing,
27:24I don't have any special opinion on that.
27:26If this government is finished,
27:31then you will go that way.
27:33Now Trump has also appreciated it.
27:37Now it's all over.
27:42There is no problem, right?
27:44No, no, not at all.
27:46No, no, there is still a Trump card near the water.
27:49Trump card.
27:50We will use that.
27:51Ladies and gentlemen,
27:53on 27th February,
27:55the President of Pakistan
27:57chaired the Halef Bardaari.
28:01He took the oath of all these ministers.
28:03First he shows you,
28:05he shows you all the proceedings.
28:07That as Federal Minister,
28:13I will discharge my duties,
28:17and perform my functions,
28:21honestly,
28:23to the best of my ability.
28:25Ladies and gentlemen, you can see,
28:27the President of Pakistan is taking the oath of allegiance,
28:29to all the ministers.
28:31Here you can see Hanif Abbasi,
28:33Tariq Fazal Chowdhury,
28:35Raza Hayat Haraj,
28:39Mr. Kamal,
28:43and the rest of the ministers.
28:45This is the incident of 27th February,
28:47and today,
28:49if I look at the date,
28:51it is 6th March.
28:53So, it has been almost a week,
28:55but they are still not getting the courts.
28:57If you look at the newspapers,
28:59there is a story on the front page of Don.
29:01What is written in it?
29:03It is that,
29:05the portfolio is still not official,
29:07after the PM meets the new cabinet electors.
29:09What I said in the beginning,
29:11that the ministers,
29:13the voter supporters,
29:15have expressed their wishes,
29:17or they have been told,
29:19that they might get this ministry.
29:21For example, you can see,
29:23Mr. Abbasi,
29:25Federal Minister of Railways,
29:27and of course,
29:29he is congratulating from the bottom of his heart,
29:31and you know,
29:33that there is a big office in Rawalpindi.
29:35So, people want this to happen,
29:37or it might be Mr. Abbasi's wish.
29:39As I said,
29:41Mr. Sheikh Rasheed is also there,
29:43maybe it is his wish.
29:45In Islamabad,
29:47where I live,
29:49there are banners for him,
29:51that he has got the ministry.
29:53So,
29:55what is this?
29:57You are not telling the news.
29:59Both the ministries that you are telling,
30:01are the right ministries.
30:03They will get this.
30:05Yes, where there are issues,
30:07these are not the issues of the ministries.
30:09For example,
30:11Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
30:13he was the State Minister of Finance,
30:15but now he is the Minister of Petroleum.
30:17So, the issues that were there,
30:19have been solved.
30:21Now, Mr. Ameer Maqam,
30:23also wants to change his ministry.
30:25He was not happy and satisfied
30:27in the Amoor-e-Kashmir affairs.
30:29So, he wants a ministry
30:31related to his province,
30:33which is his wish.
30:35He did not express it to me.
30:37But, he has informed
30:39the Prime Minister about it.
30:41Mr. Iqtiyar Wali,
30:43is also being included.
30:45S.A.P.M. or?
30:47He is being called the coordinator.
30:49Something or the other will be given.
30:51But, my sources are telling me
30:53that the Prime Minister told him
30:55that he will be a member of the cabinet.
30:57So, he will be a member of the cabinet.
30:59So, the news that we are getting,
31:01is of the coordinator.
31:03So, there is a lot of contradiction in this.
31:05Mr. Parvez Khadak,
31:07has he heard of the Ministry of Food Security?
31:09No, I don't know.
31:11I am not aware of it.
31:13He did not come to the cabinet meeting.
31:15He did not come.
31:17Now, in this way,
31:19the ministries are being divided.
31:21For the portfolios,
31:23the Prime Minister had to hold meetings.
31:25Those meetings have been held yesterday
31:27and today as well.
31:29Let's have a little dose
31:31of common sense.
31:33Mr. Parvez Khadak,
31:35regarding the Prime Minister,
31:37it is said that he does all the homework.
31:39We have talked about this earlier as well.
31:41You have to advise the cabinet.
31:43You don't have to hire
31:45a personal company.
31:47For that as well,
31:49you have to decide what work
31:51and how to do it.
31:53You have not done the homework.
31:55It has been so many weeks
31:57that you have hired an army
31:59and you don't know how to distribute work.
32:01I have heard
32:03that some people
32:05had hiccups.
32:07Some people
32:09expressed their displeasure
32:11and said that they don't need a choice
32:13and they can better perform
32:15in this portfolio.
32:17The Prime Minister is the
32:19captain of a ship.
32:21After meeting all the people,
32:23the Prime Minister said
32:25that the announcement will be made
32:27today or tomorrow morning.
32:29You didn't talk to me in the middle of the day.
32:31You didn't even ask me
32:33when you met me.
32:35You said that you will meet me today.
32:37This is something very unprecedented.
32:39It happens.
32:41But the people
32:43who are close to the Prime Minister
32:45are saying
32:47that it will take
32:49a few days.
32:51Mr. Barghis,
32:53he is a very good person.
32:55He is a pro-people.
32:57He has been working
32:59with Shabaz Shiv for 10-15 years.
33:05He is a poor man.
33:07He is a special assistant.
33:09He is not necessary.
33:11He is a Prime Minister.
33:13There are four people
33:15who are special assistants.
33:19One is Ahzaif,
33:21one is Talha Barghis.
33:23But you call them
33:25Talha Barghis
33:27on the show.
33:29If you allow me.
33:31Pray for him.
33:33I am saying that
33:35he is a pro-people.
33:37He is a pro-poor man.
33:39He is a person
33:41who is standing
33:43with the oppressed.
33:45He was fighting with Shabaz Shiv
33:47once.
33:49Let him come close to us tomorrow.
33:51We are the oppressed.
33:53Seriously?
33:55Yes.
33:59We have a news from Lahore.
34:01Mariam Sahiba is very active.
34:03She is very active.
34:05She is organizing Jalsa.
34:07She is visiting different
34:09districts of Punjab.
34:11She is doing inspections
34:13on site.
34:15Today she is visiting
34:17Lahore Mew Hospital.
34:19Lahore is the biggest hospital.
34:21Jinnah is also very big.
34:23It is the oldest hospital.
34:25It is well established.
34:27King Edwards Medical College
34:29has also become a university.
34:31She is associated with it.
34:33Mariam Sahiba went there
34:35and asked the MS
34:37what he was doing.
34:39There and then he was
34:41asked to fire her.
34:43Are you from MS?
34:45You don't know anything.
34:47Who hired you?
34:49The guy needs to be fired.
35:01The guy needs to be fired.
35:03As a Chief Minister,
35:05if I go to a hospital
35:07and if the situation
35:09is not good there,
35:11MS should not stay there.
35:13If the situation is not good
35:15and there are
35:17medical issues,
35:19any Chief Minister
35:21should do this.
35:23Another aspect of the story
35:25is that the MS
35:27has submitted
35:29a resignation on 12-02.
35:31She is showing you
35:33the resignation from additional charge
35:35as Chief Operating
35:37Officer of League Medical Superintendent.
35:39It is written in history.
35:41She is saying that
35:43she cannot do additional charge.
35:45I will continue
35:47my duty.
35:53Hassan Hafeez from Lahore
35:55is with us.
35:57He knows the real story.
35:59We are told that
36:01there are no other facilities
36:03available in the hospital
36:05which the Chief Minister
36:07was very upset about.
36:09What is the story, Hassan?
36:15Chief Minister
36:17visited the hospital today.
36:19I would like to tell you
36:21the internal story of this visit.
36:23Before this visit,
36:25five people
36:27were fired
36:29from the hospital.
36:31They were injured.
36:33An investigation was started.
36:35The next day,
36:37there is no doubt
36:39that the visit by the Chief Minister
36:41was a result of
36:43the anger of the people
36:45of Punjab.
36:47The government of Punjab
36:49is announcing big projects
36:51and is giving a budget.
36:53Still, the patients
36:55are complaining
36:57and are waiting
36:59for medicines.
37:01When Maryam Nawaz Sahiba
37:03visited the hospital
37:05on the cardiology side,
37:07there was an effort
37:09to prevent such patients.
37:11She said that
37:13she waited all night
37:15for medicines
37:17for her son's treatment.
37:19Finally, she came to know
37:21that the medicines were purchased
37:23from outside.
37:25Two or three more patients
37:27visited the hospital.
37:29What is the root cause?
37:31I would like to present
37:33some facts and figures.
37:35First, you mentioned
37:37the resignation.
37:39Three weeks ago,
37:41Faisal Masood,
37:43the MS, resigned
37:45due to personal reasons.
37:47He could not work
37:49in the environment.
37:51The resignation was not accepted.
37:53Three weeks later,
37:55the visit was held
37:57and the MS was
37:59made to stand in front
38:01of the patients
38:03because they were not getting
38:05the medicines.
38:07I know the root cause.
38:09But the Chief Minister
38:11does not know that the MS
38:13has resigned.
38:15She has to give the resignation
38:17to the Secretary or the Minister.
38:19The Chief Minister is looking
38:21at the overall situation
38:23of the hospital.
38:25I would like to present
38:27some facts.
38:29In Mayo Hospital,
38:31the pending liabilities
38:33are 4 billion rupees.
38:353 billion and 18 crore rupees
38:37are separate.
38:39The other vendors
38:41have not been paid.
38:43In other hospitals,
38:45Jinnah Hospital
38:47has a pending liability
38:49of 80 crore rupees.
38:51Services Hospital
38:53has a pending liability
38:55of 1 crore rupees.
38:57Gangaram Hospital
38:59has a pending liability
39:01of 2.5 crore rupees.
39:03Hassan Hafeez
39:05has a pending liability
39:07of 80 crore rupees.
39:09In this hospital,
39:11the medicines
39:13have a pending liability
39:15of 80 crore rupees.
39:21General Hospital
39:23has a pending liability
39:25of 1 crore rupees.
39:27As you said,
39:29Maryam Nawaz does not know
39:31how much money
39:33the vendors have to pay
39:35to supply the medicines
39:37to the patients.
39:39Mayo Hospital
39:41has a pending liability
39:43of 1 crore rupees.
39:47I would like to ask
39:49one more question.
39:51How long
39:53has this money been
39:55being carried forward?
39:573-4 billion rupees
39:59has been spent
40:01on Mayo Hospital.
40:03How long has this been going on?
40:073-4 years.
40:09Approximately.
40:113-4 years.
40:13These are the liabilities
40:15in Mayo Hospital.
40:17It is the responsibility
40:19of the Accounts Department.
40:21It has been 10 years.
40:23It has been 3 MSSs.
40:25It is pending.
40:27It is pending.
40:29We will continue
40:31this story.
40:33Tomorrow, we will try
40:35to take Mr. Salman Rafiq
40:37who is a spokesperson
40:39of the Ministry of Health.
40:41Is Mr. Imran Nazeer there?
40:43Two people are watching
40:45from Bazaar Bazaar.
40:47We will take up
40:49this story tomorrow.
40:51We know Mr. Chaudhary
40:53from Lahore.
40:55We will continue
40:57this story.
41:09Welcome back.
41:11Hassan Nafeez, you wanted to add
41:13something to the story.
41:15I wanted to say that
41:17today there was an event
41:19and the CM took action.
41:21There is no doubt that
41:23the CM visited Mayo Hospital
41:25because the patients were worried.
41:27At that time,
41:29there were many officials
41:31like the CM of Punjab.
41:33They know the situation.
41:35Mayo Hospital is in debt
41:37and they are not paying.
41:39Before this, the Minister of Health
41:41has visited many hospitals.
41:43Today, the CM visited
41:45Mayo Hospital and took action.
41:47If the CM wanted,
41:49he could have taken action.
41:51If the pending liabilities
41:53are controlled,
41:55and the accounts department
41:57is responsible,
41:59then the actions of the
42:01CEO and MSS should not be
42:03taken.
42:05If the Government of Punjab
42:07is not misguided,
42:09which is often done by the
42:11Health Department,
42:13then many problems
42:15that the Government
42:17wants to solve,
42:19should be avoided.
42:21Thank you very much.
42:23Mr. Ghulam Singh,
42:25you have come from Lahore.
42:27Obviously,
42:29efforts are being made
42:31to improve the conditions
42:33of the hospitals.
42:35In this regard,
42:37for the well-being of the people.
42:39Obviously,
42:41there is always some
42:43problem.
42:45First of all,
42:47you are going to
42:49a hospital.
42:51Where are you going?
42:53First, do its homework.
42:55What are the problems?
42:57What is the reason?
42:59What is happening?
43:01Then decide.
43:03This is the natural way
43:05of cosmetic things.
43:07Today, the program was
43:09very natural.
43:11Finally, I would like to say
43:13that in Ramadan Mubarak,
43:15where people are frying
43:17fritters and samosas,
43:19and the Prime Minister
43:21of the country,
43:23where he said that
43:25we are giving employment,
43:27then natural things
43:29should not be there.
43:31You should not choreograph it.
43:33It was not choreographed.
43:35Do you remember?
43:37It was 12 o'clock,
43:39fritters and samosas were being
43:41fried before 12 o'clock.
43:43Allah Hafiz.