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00:00MUSIC PLAYS
00:26For the benefit of the tape... This is crazy.
00:28This interview's being recorded in interview room two at Walford Police Station.
00:32I've already told you everything.
00:33I'm DCI Arthurs, also present, DC Coleman.
00:36The night it all happened, I don't know anything else.
00:38Some new information's come forward,
00:40as I've outlined to your solicitor at the officer's summary.
00:43Yeah, well, she's told me. Don't mean it's true.
00:45The night Cindy Bill was attacked,
00:47she remembers seeing you at the scene of the crime.
00:50You see, I said this was going to happen.
00:53I knew it was a bad idea.
00:55You should go home before your family wonder where you are.
00:58But, you see, it's just like the last time, isn't it?
01:02As soon as he sees Denzel and Amy, he's going to...
01:05It's all going to come out,
01:07and then Chelsea is going to want to have nothing to do with me.
01:10Yeah, Denise, he's not going to open up, will you hear?
01:13He's not going to open up, is he?
01:14He's not going to open up, is he?
01:16He's not going to open up, is he?
01:18He's not going to open up, will you hear?
01:21Yes, just go home.
01:23I will deal with this.
01:25SIREN WAILS
01:44Lucky no-one had no money on her. I'd be skimped by now.
01:48It's not a game, though.
01:49Well, if she don't go down for it, the book's still open, so...
01:52Woman got attacked, Mum.
01:54Your lover, you mean? The one you nicked off your old man?
01:57Not here.
01:58Someone protecting her husband.
02:01No-one knows anything.
02:02Yeah, but the police are going to start asking questions again.
02:06You stealing my date? Badger up.
02:09So long as we stick to our story.
02:11I was with you. You were with me.
02:14Then fine.
02:16Everything will be fine.
02:24My dad's not answering.
02:26What's he going to do anyway? He's suspended, isn't he?
02:29Oh, excuse me.
02:33How can they think for a second...
02:35She's obviously innocent, OK?
02:37They're just trying to smoke out the real person.
02:39Can you stop worrying, please?
02:41I know she and my mum never really liked each other...
02:43We're getting her out of here.
02:49At the time, you told my colleague you hadn't seen Miss Bill
02:52from the moment she left the pub.
02:53You don't have to answer. I ain't got nothing to hide.
02:56Remarkably, none of those presents saw her.
02:58Yeah, cos no-one wanted to see her. Can you blame them?
03:01You're sounding very angry.
03:03Cos you've dragged me in here. You've arrested me in front of everyone.
03:06I just want you to go through your alibi on tape.
03:08I'm pregnant. Do you know that?
03:09And if you need a break, you take.
03:11Any time.
03:15She's made all this up, you know.
03:17She'll never like me.
03:19Sounds like you've never liked her either.
03:20You don't mean I bashed her over the head, does it?
03:23Go back over the evening for us.
03:25Help us to understand how Miss Bill came to be found lying in the snow.
03:28And, according to her, opening her eyes...
03:31..and seeing you running away.
03:38No comment.
03:40DOG BARKS
03:47I've seen this one.
03:49How many videos do you think there'll be out?
03:51I don't know. I'm just saying.
03:53I thought you might have asked how Sonia's first day in court went.
03:57But, no, it's always about Bianca, isn't it?
04:00Always me, me, me.
04:01I don't even know what day it is, Rhys.
04:10How was it?
04:13The first day of the trial?
04:17I didn't go.
04:19I saw her this morning in prison.
04:22I went to meet Martin, but...
04:25..I just couldn't face seeing her in that dock.
04:28Not until I found a way to get her out.
04:32Well...
04:35..if it were me, I'd go and get her.
04:37If it were me, I'd keep that nurse quiet for a start.
04:46HE SIGHS
04:47Got any more salt?
04:54MUSIC PLAYS
04:57Give it!
04:58Aye, yi, yi!
04:59That man got booze!
05:02Oh, do they have those kids here?
05:04Arr!
05:05You really got to pull out that rod, you know, Phil.
05:07I'll trick you, man.
05:08Let me show them youngsters how to do it.
05:10Come, mama!
05:11THEY LAUGH
05:14So, where's Denise got to?
05:16Well, you should have let her talk you out of doing the washing up.
05:20Mum!
05:21THEY LAUGH
05:22Hey!
05:23We thought Ravi had you doing a shift.
05:25I know, I just got a bit of air on the way home.
05:28Don't blame him, he could leave you stayed for the whole party.
05:31Something happened?
05:33Oh, Phil.
05:34Oh, Phil.
05:35I didn't say her name, Stan.
05:37Well, don't let him get to you, Ed.
05:39Did Nugget come back with you?
05:40He had a bad day.
05:41Well, she's not your social secretary, is she?
05:44No, no, Nugget's...
05:45Come on, give Mummy a hug, will you?
05:47THEY LAUGH
05:48Listen, Phil will be yesterday's news in the morning.
05:51Everybody will be talking about something else, don't worry about it.
05:54THEY LAUGH
05:56Mate, can I stop?
05:58Seriously?
05:59THEY LAUGH
06:01You don't know what it's like, Dad.
06:04Everyone at school just talking about him.
06:08Is that what all this is about?
06:12Not me and Denise?
06:13You can't even see it's her fault.
06:15What is?
06:16Everything!
06:17Everything that's happened to us, to Duttaji.
06:20You know, she's the one who hit him last Christmas.
06:22Hit him with a glass bottle, left him for dead, Dad.
06:26Is that what he told you?
06:27Then? Then he got ill.
06:30And he started going proper mad.
06:31No, no, no, no.
06:32This illness had nothing to do with him being hit.
06:34What, you're a doctor now, are you?
06:38He's been proper feeling your head, hasn't he?
06:41If she hadn't have followed me in New Year's,
06:43none of this would have happened.
06:45As soon as she found him, he knew it'd be all over.
06:47And that's why he went to the wedding, Dad, to end it all.
06:49He went because he couldn't stand Sukhi marrying anyone else.
06:54If Denise just kept her nose out of it...
06:56No, Davinder, you're angry at the wrong person.
06:58And you can't see none of it cos all you want to do is jump her, Dad!
07:03SIREN WAILS
07:11You can't just hold her!
07:13You know how Brennan's daughter?
07:14Well, he was, dear, wasn't he?
07:16My girlfriend, Lauren.
07:17Whatever evidence you think you've got...
07:19Must be pretty watertight, mustn't it?
07:20What, like DNA? CCTV?
07:23We're just pursuing a key line of inquiry.
07:26That's my mum, innit?
07:28What she said.
07:32Sound like your dad for a second.
07:39I'm going to go down that hospital and clobber her myself!
07:41Penny.
07:43This is my mum.
07:45I'll talk to her.
07:48There must be a case here somewhere.
07:53Can I have some proper food one day?
07:57Yes.
07:58Australia 2013.
08:00A couple accused of murdering the wife's mother found out
08:03that there were some agency kitchen staff
08:05the home hadn't accounted for.
08:09We ain't in Australia.
08:10The location's not important.
08:12I'd have given a list of everyone to the police by now.
08:15The assumption is the mother of all mistakes.
08:17Yeah, well, a long word ain't going to save her, is it?
08:20Those biscuits have been her last five days.
08:23You are going to come back tomorrow, aren't you?
08:30DOOR SLAMS
08:31SHE GASPS
08:51Has he been hassling you?
08:52He... Phil.
08:54No.
08:56Look, I've been thinking.
08:58Yeah? What Phil said earlier.
09:00Can we do this another time?
09:02I mean, it's been years since he was adopted.
09:05He ain't ever going to remember being a Dawkins.
09:07And you thought, what, add him to the Brannings?
09:09No, no, no.
09:10No.
09:11No, I love him.
09:13Loved him when we were one family, but...
09:15You're seriously siding with Phil about this?
09:17Look, all the paperwork, I'll pay for it, all right?
09:19It'll be like a birthday present.
09:21Cos I am his stepdad.
09:23Or was.
09:25He's...
09:26He's...
09:29We always said, you know, we'd be there for the kids.
09:32You are his mum.
09:33His name should be Fox.
09:35Hold up.
09:37Hold up, is this some sort of wind-up?
09:39It is her surname.
09:40It's just an idea.
09:41Yeah, well, stop putting him in her head.
09:43Phil, let's just get some cheers.
09:45Amy kept her mum's surname?
09:47Yeah, cos she knows it's better being a Mitchell than a Brannings.
09:50Oh, yeah, so why did her brother change his, then?
09:51You're both his parents.
09:54Phil's got a...
09:55Denise wants your opinion.
09:56You...
09:58You're out of order. Yeah?
10:00He's my son!
10:01And she's his mum.
10:03So do one.
10:13Doing this without talking...
10:15It's just wrong.
10:16See you.
10:25HE SIGHS
10:40Same place I caught you two last time.
10:45People have to eat stuff out of this kitchen, you know.
10:48I know you're missing your dad, Ajit.
10:51And I know things have got complicated.
10:53Is it serious?
10:57I don't know.
11:00It's early days.
11:01Like... how long?
11:04Just a week or so.
11:07One week?
11:09You couldn't keep a secret one week?
11:13When you meet someone you like...
11:15Yeah, yeah, I get it.
11:20When it's all got me liking someone...
11:23..you have to like someone with half a kidney.
11:25You're so much more than that.
11:27Yeah, well, I won't be doing them in the kitchen.
11:39You can't tell anyone.
11:42This time.
11:45Please.
11:46Cos you're so good at secrecy.
11:48No, it'll cause aggro.
11:49And after everything the New Year's done,
11:51we don't need it.
11:52You don't need it?
11:53Any of us.
11:54Denise, her family, our family, but most of all, you.
12:04Doesn't mean I like it, OK?
12:13And I hope, you know, in time,
12:16when you get to know, we could...
12:19Yeah, in your dreams.
12:20Yeah, in your dreams.
12:31Busy evening.
12:35I can't talk to you.
12:36I need you to go back over the records.
12:38See if there are any agency staff you might have missed.
12:40You shouldn't be here.
12:41Someone you might have even seen yourself,
12:43if your memory was jogged.
12:45But all the records have been given over to the police.
12:48I've got every right to scrutinise what happened that day.
12:51I know it's hard for you to accept the truth, but...
12:53My wife was killed and Sonia is innocent.
12:55That's for the jury to decide.
12:56I'm just a witness, and however much you think you can scare me,
12:59I will tell the jury exactly what I saw.
13:12Come in.
13:13Ready or not.
13:18I, um...
13:21I told you...
13:23I don't need you!
13:25I don't need you telling anyone anything, do you understand?
13:28I won't have it from you.
13:29You know, sticking your nose in like you sort everything out.
13:31I'm talking to you like you're a know-one.
13:33I ain't the one who relies on charity, you rely on charity.
13:35I don't be saying that you need charity.
13:37Yeah, good, good.
13:38Because I ain't the one who's been sleeping on the streets, am I?
13:45You're sitting here on your own,
13:47pretending you don't care about anything.
13:49I'm sorry I overstepped.
13:51But if it was me who was struggling...
13:53I'm not!
13:56I'm not...
13:58struggling.
14:00If it was me who needed help,
14:02I'd like to think that, as a friend...
14:04You know, you said make memories, yeah?
14:07Well, now you've made one. You've made one, yeah?
14:10And it's a bad one.
14:12So that's great.
14:14Thanks.
14:17HE SIGHS
14:25He's just a kid.
14:26Huh?
14:27He's just a kid.
14:30And it's just...
14:32a dime.
14:33HE SIGHS
14:40DOOR OPENS
14:41CHILDREN GROAN
14:46I know she's down the station.
14:47Peter? Did you tell her?
14:49My pregnant girlfriend, the mother of your grandson,
14:52was marched out of... Peter, you're shouting.
14:54I told the police what I remembered.
14:57What minute you accusing Dad of trying to kill you?
14:59He was the one who was hiding the truth.
15:01So shall I go hand myself in and all, save you the trouble?
15:03It's been a long day for everyone.
15:05So why are you even here?
15:06I was lying in the snow and I saw Lauren running away.
15:10Mum, your memory is all over the place.
15:13No, she had that coat on, the coat she had on today.
15:16That's all you remember, a coat.
15:17Mum, there'll be hundreds of people with that coat.
15:19I know what she looks like.
15:21Mum, call the police back and tell them you misremembered.
15:25Lauren is hiding something, Peter.
15:28Mum, I want her out of there tonight.
15:32DOOR CLOSES
15:38You have quite a rocky relationship, don't you?
15:41That's one word for it.
15:43Bit of a mother-in-law from hell.
15:44Doesn't mean I wanted her dead.
15:46You and her son, Peter, you've had your ups and downs.
15:51No more than any young parents.
15:54So you're just starting to get back to a better place?
15:56You turn up in France and find his mother's come out of witness protection?
16:00She pretended to be dead for 25 years.
16:02So her word don't really count for much, does it?
16:04You really don't have to answer.
16:05It wasn't just him she was deserting, was it?
16:07His sister Lucy was your best friend.
16:09You were angry at her victim on her behalf.
16:12Lucy was murdered.
16:15And your lot messed that up and all.
16:17They put my dad in prison.
16:18Which is why this time we're determined to leave no stone unturned.
16:22So, mother-in-law's back interfering between you and her precious son.
16:26Yeah.
16:27She's out of other people's beds long enough.
16:31Then you go and find yourself pregnant again.
16:33I bet she had lots to say about that, didn't she?
16:37I've told you everything I know.
16:41I don't know what you're trying to get at.
16:42I believe you're a recovering alcoholic.
16:45I know you're receiving treatment for drug addiction.
16:52Just painkillers.
16:56I was in a crush.
16:58You must have gone through the whole process.
17:01Trust and understanding.
17:03I strongly object to the nature of your questioning.
17:07Acknowledgement?
17:11Freedom.
17:14Her...
17:16..growth.
17:19Forgiveness.
17:20You are seeking to manipulate my client's addiction journey.
17:23You know better than most how denial can hinder a recovery.
17:28I...
17:32That night...
17:33You don't seem to have shared Ms Beale's formal statement,
17:36which I'm assuming is because she hasn't yet been able to make one.
17:39She's had a serious head injury.
17:41Your client was speaking...
17:42She's been in a coma until last night.
17:45She's clearly, and I'm being charitable,
17:47an unreliable witness whose memory is only brokenly returning.
17:51Yet you're basing your argument on her.
17:52I'm not basing my argument on her.
17:54Doctors were happy for us to speak to her.
17:57There's no evidence, no CCTV, no DNA placing my client at the scene.
18:02Even the victim's own, frankly, dubious account
18:04says simply that Ms Branning was there,
18:07not that she attacked her.
18:11So I suggest, unless there are any other grounds to charge...
18:18I'm not sure I can do that.
18:19I'm not sure I can do that.
18:21I'm not sure I can do that.
18:23HE SIGHS
18:25You'll be bailed to a future date for this matter to be fully investigated.
18:29And for forensics to undertake their own examinations
18:32into the outstanding evidence.
18:34This interview's terminated...
18:39..for tonight.
18:42This isn't over.
18:52DOOR OPENS
18:59He's not going to jump out and get me?
19:01I am just walking my ex-wife...
19:04Not wife. Hm.
19:06..to her door.
19:07Civil partnership. That was a bit of a misnomer, wasn't it?
19:10I don't know. It wasn't that bad.
19:12Yeah.
19:14You want to seriously think about that?
19:16You know, changing rooms, no?
19:19When has my life become such a mess?
19:22Mm, it's not a mess.
19:24Three kids, three psycho dads.
19:28Three kids, three mums, two of them cousins.
19:32Ooh!
19:35You're a good man, Jack Brennan. Mm.
19:37Not all the time, but I'm trying.
19:40Yeah, you're very trying. I'm very trying. Yeah.
19:42HE CHUCKLES
19:45Don't have to be complicated.
19:47Me and you.
19:50I'm very lucky to have you.
19:53Yeah, as is Raymond.
19:55You know?
19:57Yeah, go on, get in.
19:58Come on.
20:01Penny, can I...?
20:05All right, I'm on my way.
20:08Lauren's been arrested. They want me to pick them up.
20:10Is there anything I can do, or...?
20:13Listen, thank you. All right? It was a lovely day.
20:15Yeah.
20:23DOG BARKS
20:31You shouldn't let him speak to you like that.
20:33Ha! I'm nothing special.
20:34Phil talks like that to everyone.
20:36HE CHUCKLES
20:37So why are you calling me about it?
20:40He's going through a hard time.
20:42Harder than you?
20:43He puts up this big, tough front, but...
20:46You need to focus on yourself instead, and just tell him.
20:50I don't want to overburden him with anything else.
20:53You've confided in me, and I'm not overburdened.
20:58Phil might surprise you.
21:02Maybe I shouldn't be here.
21:04He's going to clock at some point, isn't he?
21:06And he's got enough on, more than enough.
21:09Maybe tomorrow I should slip away.
21:13You are going nowhere.
21:17You have got dementia, don't you, Jim?
21:20And whether you like it or not, you need to tell him.
21:25THEY LAUGH
21:29Do this. Keep it on! Just keep it on! Keep it on!
21:31Come on!
21:33You've got to keep it fresh, innit?
21:35Oh, no, I'm not happy!
21:39Come on!
21:47That was very cosy.
21:49Sorry?
21:50You and Jim.
21:53That's all.
21:56Have you lost it?
21:58I'm not stupid, Denise.
22:00Hands all over each other.
22:02Erm, it was a hug.
22:04He's a friend.
22:06Now, can you just tell me, what did Nugget say?
22:08I've seen you and him all afternoon.
22:10He's been his dad.
22:12You played me off against him last time.
22:14No-one is playing each other, OK?
22:16Now, come on, just tell me, what did Nugget say?
22:20He's agreed to keep it quiet.
22:23OK.
22:28Right, you better go.
22:36I know I said you were pace, but I don't know if I want to be
22:39someone's...
22:42..too little secret.
22:47You told me you were going to be there.
22:49I know, I know, I wasn't...
22:50Me and Kat were in that court on our own.
22:52Sonia looked so scared.
22:53No, but she had you, you know, both of you.
22:55Get that one coming!
22:56It's bad enough she ain't got Bianca.
22:58I mean, she was looking around trying to see you.
22:59Mr Kowal.
23:00Come in.
23:04Erm, this is May, Sonia's solicitor.
23:07I know. I was in court.
23:08I've just had the court on the phone.
23:10I'm sorry.
23:11I'm sorry.
23:12I'm sorry.
23:13I'm sorry.
23:14I've just had the court on the phone.
23:16Seems like someone just tried intimidating a witness.
23:25He's in your bed, bless him.
23:26Went out like a light.
23:27Oh, thank you.
23:31So, what is all this about, then?
23:33Just a misunderstanding?
23:35Cindy's claiming she saw her while she was lying on the ground.
23:39Well, why would she do that?
23:40Oh, cos she's not had any attention for about five minutes.
23:44Laurie, isn't that bang on the head centre even more la-la than usual?
23:50It's been a really long day.
23:54Lauren.
23:55Oh, what's she claiming now?
23:56It's Colonel Mustard with the candlestick?
23:57Oh, you've not been back to see her, have you?
23:59SHE SNIFFLES
24:12Was Cindy doing my due diligence?
24:14I thought she was joking.
24:15But our care home has hundreds of people through its doors every day.
24:18I thought maybe Nurse Jasmine could see if there was someone unaccounted for.
24:21So you jumped her in the dark and blocked her getting off home?
24:24What the hell were you thinking?
24:25I had to do something.
24:26That's what you're paying me for!
24:29You know this is going to be reported to the judge in the morning?
24:32Look at me, I'm hardly intimidating.
24:33If this plays against us...
24:34What was I supposed to do?
24:36My fiancée's in prison, about to give birth, in shackles, probably.
24:39You cannot approach witnesses!
24:42Is that why you weren't there?
24:44You'll be lucky if you get out of this nothing more serious
24:46than a police caution.
24:47And you had better pray you haven't just ruined this for Sonia.
24:59I thought maybe if she saw me, she might admit that she made it up.
25:02Peter...
25:03I mean, why would she think for a second that anyone would believe her?
25:05Peter, please!
25:06You were there!
25:07She can't remember anything, clearly!
25:10Freedom, growth, forgiveness.
25:15I mean, one minute she's still a minute, she's riled with Dad.
25:18She ain't lying.
25:22She's not lying.
25:24SHE SIGHS
25:26That night at Christmas, I...
25:30I did see her.
25:32In the snow.
25:35I thought...
25:37I thought it was George and Gran who found her.
25:45I...
25:48I turned her over.
25:51And I just ran away.
25:54Lauren, you left her for dead.
25:56I was...
25:57SHE SNIFFLES
25:58I was... I was freaked out, just seeing her laying there.
26:01I didn't know that she saw me.
26:03Her... Her eyes were closed.
26:05Do you know who attacked her?
26:09I don't know.
26:10Did you see anyone else, Lauren?
26:12Did you see anyone running away after you found her?
26:15SHE SNIFFLES
26:17No. No.
26:18Right, well, one minute it's you don't know,
26:20then it's you're very defiant.
26:23It's cos...
26:27I took some pills.
26:30Lauren, after everything... I know.
26:34Your mum, she...
26:36She knew that I had the recording.
26:38And... And she offered me some pills to keep me quiet
26:41and I wasn't going to take them.
26:43I wasn't.
26:47And then it all kicked off, didn't it?
26:49And I...
26:50I...
26:51And I...
26:52I just needed something.
26:55So...
26:58I went in her bag and I took them and...
27:01I went to the car lot and I...
27:03I don't know.
27:04I don't know, Peter. I just...
27:06I think I just blacked out.
27:08Was this before or after you found her?
27:10Were you blacked out or were you not?
27:14I'm just remembering bits.
27:19I remember...
27:21I remember...
27:23being on the square.
27:26I remember being in the garden.
27:32I remember standing over her body and...
27:36And I remember turning it over.
27:37Why have you only just remembered this now, Lauren?
27:41I'm just getting flashes.
27:46Day by day.
27:47I'm really scared, Peter.
27:53What if there's more that I don't remember?
27:59What if...
28:00the person that attacked her...
28:04What if it really was me?
28:06What if...
28:07the person that attacked her...
28:09What if it really was me?
28:36What if...
28:37the person that attacked her...
28:39What if it really was me?