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00:00So, how do you feel about President Trump and President Putin speaking on the telephone,
00:05getting to this stage of some sort of negotiations?
00:09I mean, do you think that he will be able to strike a good deal for Ukraine?
00:14I think, again, that any good deal for Ukraine would start with understanding how it will
00:21work further and how the security guarantees would work.
00:25The truth is that these security guarantees would be unpleasant for our allies, because
00:32it's either taking Ukraine into NATO or sending international forces here, or assuring that
00:40if Russia will break the deal, then somebody will go into full-scale war with them.
00:45So before this situation is resolved about how would you guarantee that, I think all
00:52the calls and talks and statements, they are just preparative, I would say.