In this special broadcast on Oneindia news, the cast of Sabarmati report talked with Oneindia’sPuja Talwar. They shared their insights on how the story is important and why it really matters for the Indian audience. Don’t miss this exclusive interview.
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00:00Welcome to the three representing the Sabarmati Report. I loved your trailer, absolutely loved it.
00:07I was in the studio when all this was going on, so the memories came back. Now it's been what, 22 years?
00:14But I want to ask the three of you, what were your reasons to come on?
00:18Because we got a lot of perspectives here. The media played a very large role in the entire rhetoric that we saw.
00:28So what were your reasons? Sometimes it happens, the artist and his politics. We all have our politics.
00:34Did it entwine or was it separate?
00:38I think for me, more than an artist, first as a citizen, I was very interested in the subject when I read the research and the data that the team came up with.
00:51I had at first said no, because one doesn't want to take sides without knowing everything.
00:57If you don't know everything about something, you shouldn't participate in anything.
01:01So the moment we met the team, I met the team and I saw the screenplay and I saw everything.
01:06And then we saw the research, we said, okay, fine, they want to stick to the truth and they don't want to sensationalize anything.
01:13That was a big reason. And then, of course, I was very interested in participating in the telling of the media's role in this, which is what our film is actually dealing with.
01:27It's talking about the very thing that you said, it's talking about the truth, which is the tragedy that occurred and the dance of perspective around it because of the media.
01:37And that for me was very interesting. And we've seen such, I've seen and loved such films in the West where they go into the newsrooms and they go into the offices and between the papers of what the journalists are doing and how they come up with a story.
01:52So I was very interested in being part of a film like that in our country.
01:57More than the politics, I think it was, it was a very conscience driven call.
02:06Because when it happened, we were very young, we didn't have much information.
02:12Along with the script, the research material that was given on the internet, then we saw it on the internet and corroborated it.
02:20And such an important pivot point, which completely changed the entire socio-political fabric of our country.
02:29And there is a generation that doesn't know about it.
02:32So for cinema, such an influential medium, I felt, you know, this is right up my alley.
02:39It is something that I should take up and it is something that people should know through cinema.
02:45Absolutely. Like you said about the mic, our poor mic gets manipulated.
02:51Entangled.
02:52It takes sides. It goes from here to there.
02:56How important is it to speak the truth, especially in the times that we live in?
03:01Yeah. Thank you for saying that.
03:03It is very important. I think in the era of misinformation, and I would say more than that, there is excess of information.
03:12It is very important and as an artist, I can speak for all of us over here that this is the least we can do.
03:21Instead of going on platforms and speaking or just talking, this is what we can do.
03:26And we hope that we are able to move the needle in whichever direction with our work.
03:32And let people come and see our work and open up their minds.
03:37You know, allow this film or what we are trying to say to go in and sort of sit with themselves and question whatever they want.
03:45Rashi, you are very quiet. You are the only one talking here.
03:49Who actually wants to, while she wants to process the news, you want to present the facts along with him.
03:56So, tell us.
03:57Actually, my answer to what both of them said is very close to what they said and their reasons for doing this film.
04:05I think the film, when it came to me also, I first rejected it saying that, you know, maybe this will be some propaganda driven film,
04:12which I don't want to be a part of because I don't want my credibility to be questioned as an actor.
04:16And I've always sort of stayed away from giving any political opinions because I feel that unless you know everything about anything, you shouldn't comment.
04:24And while I mean, I had this preconceived notion that this film will be about, will be agenda driven.
04:33Till I saw, as Vikrant said, we saw this research and we saw everything and whatever we were presented with, we saw some graphic photos.
04:41We did our own research as well. And my eyes opened up.
04:45And as Vikrant has said that our generation or even the upcoming generation or even the generation of my parents was sort of unaware about what exactly happened.
04:53People know about the riots, but they don't know about the genesis that caused it.
04:56And that's why I felt it was very important.
04:58And as Riddhi said, as a citizen, we felt like we need to tell the story and we have that power to take it to people.
05:04So I think we just took it up. And yes, it has been a brave decision.
05:07It takes courage to do this. And today, when I look back, I think I'm proud of having made that decision to be a part of this film.
05:14But Vikrant, what would you want to say to this thing?
05:17As she said, in The Best, we've seen a whole lot of these stories.
05:20Everyone needs to know sides. But here, the scenario that we are in is a little scary.
05:26As an artist, do you also fear like lending your voice?
05:29Of course, of course, of course, I do feel scared.
05:32It is a very common human emotion.
05:35Whether you are an actor or a sportsperson or a famous person, it doesn't matter.
05:39That fear remains because there is such a clear divide.
05:45Unfortunately, and you have seen in the last 10-15 years, you get very extreme viewpoints.
05:53Balance of perspectives or balance of an opinion is absent.
06:00And if there is a balance of an opinion, then due to in-extremism,
06:05the person who has a balanced opinion gets scared because of the in-extremes.
06:12Because he knows, leave it, it's only going to get toxic. What's the point of saying it?
06:17Absolutely. These days, you see news debates, everyone is shouting at each other.
06:22Nobody is hearing what the other is saying.
06:24But I like the interesting comment you made.
06:26First of all, at that time, it wasn't such a circus.
06:31Because thank God, we didn't have social media and Facebook.
06:36Neither did we have Twitter. I think everyone's anniversary was around 2000.
06:41Maybe, God knows what it would have been like if we had these platforms then.
06:47But these days, we see it in movies too.
06:50I'm not coming, we leave politics.
06:53In this movie, 100 crores, he did 100 crores, all the super hits.
06:57So where is the truth? How to find the truth?
07:02I think that's why you need to be, you need to trust your intelligence on things
07:06and not just trust whatever you're seeing.
07:08Because probably that's not the truth.
07:10They're wrapping it up in a paper and showing it to you and you might not see it.
07:13So I think it's important that you're aware of what's happening.
07:17You do the research of whatever's presented to you before you believe things.
07:20That's very important. I mean, it's sad that we have to do it today.
07:22But you have to do it before you form opinions.
07:24These days, you see something, it's a fake news, you believe it.
07:28You start having opinions on it till it's exposed later.
07:31And that happens a lot on this platform.
07:33Ex, it happens a lot. I'm not on it.
07:36Ex is your ex.
07:38Exactly, as Riddhiya said, that ex is my ex.
07:42But I genuinely feel that you have to be aware.
07:45Otherwise, don't make a comment on it.
07:47There was a film, Sanjay Mishra's Aankhon Dekh.
07:51Yes, yes, yes, of course.
07:53And after that, I decided that I would adopt the same policy in life.
07:58What was that policy?
08:01What I see with my eyes, I'll only believe that.
08:04But there's a downside to that too, Riddhiya.
08:06I'm now coming to films. What you see, is what you sell.
08:09You haven't seen how on social media,
08:12I mean, the movies keep pushing themselves.
08:15Creatives come.
08:16So, I'm now asking, given the craft, what's the truth?
08:20I think it's because there's so much money that's now come in
08:23that all of this is happening.
08:25And it's great for business.
08:27What's the truth of movies?
08:29How would we know?
08:30We are three actors and we want to be in all these movies
08:32that are claiming to be the top most.
08:34He's sitting in the middle. He's the biggest hit of the three.
08:37He's on the right side too.
08:38Yes, he's on the right side too.
08:40His superstardom will rub off on me.
08:42The wind will come like this.
08:44Please, please, Riddhiya.
08:45No, but honestly, Vikram, what would you want to say?
08:48Because earlier, I have seen something change in you.
08:50You used to be very vocal, but now you're a little guarded
08:53when it comes to your opinions too.
08:55They think I'm very vocal. They scold me a lot.
08:58Earlier, you used to speak a lot.
09:00Now, it's less.
09:02Now, it's very less.
09:28Unless you strongly believe about something,
09:30it's best not to give your opinion.
09:32Unless you're sure that you're going to stick by this for life.
09:36Nothing stays.
09:38I think as an actor, there's a certain territory
09:41and we're all soft targets.
09:42So, they'll just start pouncing on you.
09:44Just to avoid that, it's best if you stick to your craft.
09:47You talk about acting and don't get into the politics.
09:49That I noticed in Vikram.
09:51He failed 12th.
09:52He failed once and now he's passed.
09:54He's like, I won't say it again.
09:57No, I think...
10:00Sorry, I'd also like to add that...
10:02For me also, because I've never really given political opinions
10:05because I've not known about things fully.
10:07Nobody knows about things fully.
10:09When I don't know, I don't want to get into those fights
10:12because there is a certain responsibility as an actor that you have
10:15because today I might make a statement
10:17and people who sort of follow me would probably be like,
10:19but Rashi said this, we agree with her.
10:22I don't want my opinion to change tomorrow
10:24and those people are disillusioned.
10:27Why did she say? What did she say?
10:29I don't want that to be the topic of discussion.
10:31I want them to think, okay, she's done this film.
10:33How was her work?
10:35And a lot of times people have asked me, why Sabarmati?
10:37So, I was like, you will see what I stand for
10:39through the films that I do.
10:41Absolutely, I agree with that.
10:43That was one of the biggest reasons why I signed this film
10:45because I knew there is no agenda here.
10:47You're seeing everything from a very human lens
10:49and that's why I'm a part of it.
10:51Exactly.
10:52Vikram, what were you saying?
10:54Are you impressed?
10:56No, no, I'm already impressed.
10:59Tell me the Hindi word for impressed.
11:02You speak pure Hindi.
11:04Prabhavit.
11:05Prabhavit is influence.
11:06Impressed.
11:08You know, another Hindi word,
11:10we got stuck in Hindi again
11:12because a lot of people tell me,
11:14you guys feel shy to speak in Hindi
11:16because you're making a film and not speaking in Hindi.
11:18So, you're a social conditioning.
11:20It's not a conditioning.
11:21Even I'm speaking in English.
11:23All of us do it.
11:24No, no, we'll speak in Hindi.
11:26Even I do it.
11:27But what I do is,
11:28I practice in between.
11:30Mentally translate.
11:31My film is not anti-English.
11:32It's just pro-Hindi.
11:33There's a difference.
11:34Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:35If you stand for something,
11:36maybe you're going against something.
11:37I can see that in the film
11:39through his character
11:40that take pride in your language.
11:42He says, I can speak Hindi very well.
11:44You know.
11:45So, somewhere, I think that also,
11:47he's somewhere making a statement there as well.
11:50To be proud.
11:51Aren't you?
11:52Proud.
11:53Yeah, not just Hindi.
11:54I mean,
11:55there are so many cultures
11:57and, you know,
11:58so many different languages.
11:59There's so much in our country.
12:01Everybody should own up to their roots
12:03and where they come from.
12:04Their roots should own up to it.
12:07I think somewhere,
12:08I think,
12:09like someone said,
12:10Hindi, you're judged
12:11if you can't speak English properly.
12:13Yes, yes.
12:14So, somewhere,
12:15I think it's also,
12:16the movie also talks about judgment
12:18from what I can.
12:19Judgment, perception.
12:21Absolutely.
12:24So, how was it?
12:25The film is coming.
12:26It's looking very promising.
12:27And, I think,
12:28now, finally,
12:29we'll get a content-driven narrative to watch
12:33since everyone has been craving for that.
12:35You will, you will.
12:36You will definitely,
12:37your eyes will open to a lot of stuff
12:38you probably weren't even aware of.
12:40No, she would be.
12:41You would be.
12:42We would be.
12:45You can probably get on a call with us later
12:47and then you can tell us.
12:49And the ones who reported it,
12:50you can sit with them and say,
12:51Oh, brother,
12:52how was it?
12:53Please, call a conference
12:55and tell us.
12:56Off the record.
12:57Off the record.
12:58Tell us what we heard
13:00and how it felt.
13:01But, Vishant,
13:02and all three of you,
13:03what do you currently feel about,
13:05as we're saying,
13:07the industry doesn't understand
13:08what kind of pictures to show,
13:10what kind of stories to tell.
13:11What do you think actually is the reason?
13:13That it's going through this churn
13:15where box office versus
13:17narrative.
13:19Actually, no idea, ma'am.
13:21To be very honest,
13:22I can speak for myself.
13:23I think I'm a part of that group
13:25who actually does not know
13:28what works,
13:29what does not work
13:30because I'm still finding my own self.
13:32And I think most of them
13:33are finding themselves.
13:35What held five years ago
13:37does not hold today.
13:39This transformation is so rapid.
13:41By the time you sort of
13:43comprehend and adapt yourself
13:45to something now,
13:46it's already passing.
13:48So, I don't understand that.
13:50But I think,
13:51I believe that stories
13:52that have archival value,
13:54stories that make you feel and think
13:56will always be the flavor of the season.
13:59They might not be your
14:01films which make into
14:03your so-called clubs,
14:05but they definitely will have
14:06a certain sense of an archival value
14:08or a timeless quality in it.
14:10Films that make you feel and think.
14:14And also,
14:15it's been remarkable
14:16how the three of you have come together.
14:18It's been a brave effort.
14:20Does this also mean that
14:21going forward,
14:23there will be a lot more stories
14:25that this film
14:26would actually be the starting point?
14:28Because a lot of things
14:29that people need to know.
14:30I mean,
14:31we can't keep everything
14:32thrashed under the carpet
14:33and saying,
14:34take this out
14:35or else this will happen.
14:36I only do work like that.
14:38So, I mean,
14:39I've worked for
14:41a good number of years in television,
14:42a good number of years in OTT
14:44and now with films.
14:46My endeavor is the same.
14:47To tell stories
14:49and to play characters
14:50that people want to see.
14:53An opinionated,
14:54strong-willed girl
14:55is never,
14:56firstly,
14:57in our society,
14:58is considered to be too much
14:59or too crazy or,
15:00you know.
15:02So, I've always played those parts.
15:04And whichever medium I will go to,
15:05there's nothing else I will do.
15:07I will only play such parts.
15:09So, this is my safe zone.
15:11And I also feel that
15:12art is art only
15:13when it makes you think
15:15and it sparks conversations.
15:17And we hope to do that
15:18with this film.
15:21Sirji, parting shot.
15:22Your film narratives
15:23have always sparked conversations
15:25and lately,
15:26more so than ever.
15:27What would you like to say?
15:29Yeah, I think it's important,
15:30you know.
15:31Like Rashi said,
15:32you know,
15:33art has to sort of,
15:36it has to stimulate you
15:37in some way or the other.
15:39You either have to think
15:40or feel
15:41or talk.
15:42You have to do something.
15:44So, with Sabarmati Report,
15:45I hope that
15:46there will be conversations.
15:48Somewhere,
15:49the rhetoric that you said
15:50in the beginning,
15:51that rhetoric,
15:52somewhere,
15:54will get a time to settle
15:55and the truth
15:57will be exposed.
15:59So that people can talk,
16:00can reflect.
16:02It's important.
16:04I think we are all ready
16:05to reflect, actually.
16:06I don't think we are in a society
16:07that wants to reflect.
16:09We don't want to see
16:10ourselves in the mirror.
16:12The power of cinema,
16:13because if you see it
16:14through the medium of a film,
16:15then it does spark conversations
16:17in every household.
16:18Whenever you walk away from it,
16:19you will make them
16:20first talk to your friends,
16:21talk to your families.
16:22I think cinema has that power.
16:24Art is for reflection, right?
16:25Art is meant for reflection.
16:27Yes, in our,
16:28I think in present times,
16:29art is not given enough to you.
16:31I mean, I was in a room
16:32full of principals
16:33somewhere in a conference
16:34and I, you know,
16:35had the opportunity.
16:36I was mediating something
16:39and there were lots of
16:40stalwarts sitting there
16:41but I got this opportunity.
16:42There were a lot of
16:43India's principals sitting there
16:44and I told them.
16:45I said, please,
16:46please tell your students
16:48to have appreciation for art.
16:50This is what will save
16:51humanity in society.
16:53And it's so important.
16:54So art is always there for,
16:56and cinema is a part of that.
16:58It's a reflection
16:59and it needs to be valued.
17:01And you three can be
17:02sent to media houses
17:03just to give journalists
17:04a quick crash course
17:06in how to report.
17:08No, we'll change and come.
17:10We'll change.
17:12Guys, thank you.
17:14Thank you so much.
17:15All the very best.
17:16Thank you very much.
17:17Thank you so much.
17:18I'm very eager to watch it
17:19because the trailer
17:20had me riveted.
17:22I remember that morning
17:24when this happened
17:25and when the footage came.
17:27Off the record,
17:28I'll call you again.
17:29I want to tell you.
17:33A lot of things will stop.
17:34Bye.
17:35Take care.
17:36All the very best.
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